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Old 2005-04-10, 09:58 PM   #1
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So many choices:

I think it would be cool to sport some Hankook.

200 Treadwear Hankook

S-03 $100 Rebate on S-03, $50 on 070's

Azenis RT-615

160 Treadwear Continental SportContact

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http://www.discounttiredirect.com Says they still have Azenis Sports.

http://www.tirerack.com
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Tha Hankooks are an interesting choice at $440. Even if they weren't totally up to par I doubt they really suck. Minimal investment.

I'd cross the PS2s and Contis off the list for autocross. Class them with the Goodyear GSD3s as good street, bad track/autoX tires.

Leaves the S03s, Azenis, and new Azenis. Either Azenis is probably more competitive than the S03s. Try to snag some more 215s if you can. That's probably the best bet.
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Contis are 911 equipment that's got to give them some street cred!

I'm not looking for ultimate grip as I am a balance of daily driving also.
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You might look hard at the S03s then... 225/45 is $132 each after rebate. $628 up front. I'm going with 235/40 S03s for now.
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You might look hard at the S03s then... 225/45 is $132 each after rebate. $628 up front. I'm going with 235/40 S03s for now.
IMO, the S03's are the hands down best 3-season autocrossable tire. Tons of dry grip, great wet grip, and not bank breaking (esp. considering the rebates on 'em right now). Think Kuhmo MX, but more quiet, and a little grippier.
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Some drivers ran on Hankooks at the Atlanta National Tour event this past weekend:

http://www.sccaforums.com/ubb/ultima...opic/22/1112/3

Page 3, see posts by Andy Hollis.
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pfft.

If poeple are even attempting the hankooks on the nat. tour they are good enough for me!
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Tyson, I think you should try them out, I want to know how they perform.
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Tyson, I think you should try them out, I want to know how they perform.
Well as soon as I cord my 070's I think I will.
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I'm gonna run a pretty big Hankook Window Banner also.
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I'm gonna run a pretty big Hankook Window Banner also.

You're a whore. But I support your decision
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IMO, the S03's are the hands down best 3-season autocrossable tire. Tons of dry grip, great wet grip, and not bank breaking (esp. considering the rebates on 'em right now). Think Kuhmo MX, but more quiet, and a little grippier.
Yeah, if the volks I bought were +40 instead of +44 I would have gone with 255/40 RT615s. But, I'd have to lose a whole lot of camber to run them, plus I'm not sold on the wet performance yet. I think after the S03s are gone (235/40 this time) I'll try the 235/40 RT615s that are due out in a month or two.
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cool RT615's.

I think we should all run different tires.
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The Hankooks are interesting... There is still no good choice for serious Autocross in a 245/40-17 though...
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I knew this thread was worth a damn.
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The Hankooks are interesting... There is still no good choice for serious Autocross in a 245/40-17 though...
I just ordered a set... 235/40/17 Hankook R-S2 Z212's.

I was a little hesitant, since I don't know all that much about the tread compound vs. the Falken Azenis Sports, however, the 235 Hankooks are just as wide as the 225/45/17 Azenis (both have 8.3" listed as contact patch width), and they have a gearing advantage of being a 40 series tire (.5" smaller overall diameter). Plus they're a little cheaper than the RT-215's and a lot cheaper than the RT-615's. I'm a little concerned about the 9.5" section width on the Hankooks (vs. the 9.1" of the Azenis)... it might lead to rubbing in the rear on my car again, or more sidewall flex than the Azenis Sports... I guess we'll find out!

Someone with a set of wheels that clear my StopTechs (Dean, Tyson) needs to get a set of the RT-615's so we can trade wheels for an event and compare tires!
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Sweet, I found out this morning my Yokohama's are out of stock for now, no biggy..

I'm looking forward to seeing your tires. Are you picking them up today?
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I'm looking forward to seeing your tires. Are you picking them up today?
They're getting shipped, probably from AZ. Tirerack doesn't carry Hankook's no matter what Kevin thinks he saw on their website.
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Tirerack doesn't carry Hankook's no matter what Kevin thinks he saw on their website.
What I saw was the ability to search by size and brand, and hankook was a choice. Apparently they used to carry them and no longer do and missed that section of the website.
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Tirerack does (or did) carry some of the economy Hankook passenger tires, mostly for OE applications on Kias and Hyundais. None of the performance tires though.
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If you list tires by brand on TireRack's site, Hankook is not listed. However, if you search by size, on the "limit to these brands" area, Hankook is an option... but there are no 235 Hankooks.

I ordered mine from Discount Tire's website, and I'm gonna have to pay tax, shipping, and that $4 NV environmental fee. But I still came in under the $500 limit I put on myself.

Man, I miss being able to just run by the warehouse and pic 'em up and have 'em installed for cheap. Plus the guys overthere recognized me as a Kragen employee because I got the Khail Discount so many times in the past... RT-215's for like $405 *mounted and balanced*. Those were the good old days.
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Damn, Scott wasn't supposed to find the 235/40s...
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Damn, Scott wasn't supposed to find the 235/40s...
Dean, I don't think you have to worry about the mods/parts on my car too much, since our cars are so damn close setup-wise. You just have to worry about me becoming a better driver than you.

...every event we run together is proportionally more seat-time for me than it is for you.
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...every event we run together is proportionally more seat-time for me than it is for you.
Sounds like the Autocross event horizon... I better bask in the glory before the tidal forces tear me to bits...
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Sounds like the Autocross event horizon... I better bask in the glory before the tidal forces tear me to bits...

That was very poetic.
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