superturbo - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

STIguy · 2004-11-03, 08:38 PM

my buddy told me if i get a chip for my car and get a vortec superchargers, possibly a new factory clutch i should be able to run a low 11 quartermile maybe a high ten at sea level. is that true?

Kevin M · 2004-11-03, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by STIguy

my buddy told me if i get a chip for my car and get a vortec superchargers, possibly a new factory clutch i should be able to run a low 11 quartermile maybe a high ten at sea level. is that true?

Sigh. At least you didn't call Vishnu and ask them those questions...

First, there are no "chips" for Subarus anymore... they are no more useful than carbeurater jets these days. Your engine management choices, without going to a standalone system, are basically EcuTek reflash, Cobb AccessPort, and the Utec. Of these, I would recommend the EcuTek reflash for varying reasons I've listed elsewhere here and on i-club.com.

Second, no superchargers for your car- it has a turbo already. If you want low 11s at sea level, you'd better not plan on driving it around up here, because a turbo that big will have more lag than Matt when he gets back from New Zealand.

Third, the factory clutch is fine for everything but repeated hard drag launches. If you want to do that, we can help you choose a clutch based on your overall needs for the car.

This thread on i-club gives you a good idea of the first basic mods you should do to your STi. It will be faster, get better milage, handle better, and do nothing worse than stock using what's listed in that thread.

Now, the best thing to do before spending a single dollar on performance mods (do whatcha wanna do as far as looks) is decide what the car will need to be able to do. Do you want to autocross? Open track? Drag race? Just a fun daily driver? Tell us what your plans are, and we can give a lots of good solid tech advice that will make sure you don't waste money on inneffective, unnecessary, or detrimental mods. Hopefully, you'll plan on making it out to some autocrosses with us next season (that is the primary purpose of our organization after all) in which case you'll need to decide what class to join, and what mods that you're allowed will develop from there.

Nick Koan · 2004-11-03, 08:59 PM

You planning on turbo and supercharging the car? Thats certainly a project.

I would recommend a ECU reflash, a bigger turbo rather then a 'chip' and a vortec supercharger. Its a more proven technology, and I bet you could get into the 11s with enough tuning.

Libila · 2004-11-03, 09:04 PM

Your friend gives horrible advice. BAN SUVS explained it perfect. We need feedback from you so we can help.

STIguy · 2004-11-03, 10:13 PM

i dont get this ecu blahh shit. i was looking on ebay for the biggest turbo's i could find and i found a T-187. it is for a 18 wheel semi truck but i am sure i can get my girlfriend to fab up some stuff. i think i need to cut out part of my fire wall to fit the supercharger.
i wanted the shwooosh sound when my car shiffs so i cut off part of the blowervalve and stuffed a sock in it. it sounds realy good but the car sounds like it makes the shwoosh sound when i excelerate

STIguy · 2004-11-03, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Libila

Your friend gives horrible advice. BAN SUVS explained it perfect. We need feedback from you so we can help.

My friend is half owner of P2motorsports. he probably knows more then anyone here and his supra is fast!

Kevin M · 2004-11-03, 10:35 PM

I can't believe it took me this long to figure out that you're a troll.

sti deede · 2004-11-03, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by STIguy

i dont get this ecu blahh shit. i was looking on ebay for the biggest turbo's i could find and i found a T-187. it is for a 18 wheel semi truck but i am sure i can get my girlfriend to fab up some stuff. i think i need to cut out part of my fire wall to fit the supercharger.
i wanted the shwooosh sound when my car shiffs so i cut off part of the blowervalve and stuffed a sock in it. it sounds realy good but the car sounds like it makes the shwoosh sound when i excelerate

Dude...are you trying to be an ass? Or is it just a slow day for you. Generally, the bigger the turbo to greater the lag.
Socks are for your feet and occasionally for clean up. Save them for such things. Do not use a sock as a make shift device to create a cool sound. Swooosh is for nike and RICE. You should spent more time researching and less time causing rucus. Silly boy.

Evo Mike · 2004-11-03, 11:57 PM

shakes his head...

First of all, more power = more problems.
Bigger turbo requires a ton of stuff!
- bigger injectors
- ecu
- exhaust
- Tuneing!
- the list could go on and on..

If you're planning to run higher than 22psi on your STi, you'd better plan on head work too! hahaha.

Anyhow, you dont really need that big of a turbo to run 11's... If you wanna run 11's that badly.. i have two suggestions.
1) UTEC, FMIC, GT30R turbo, injectors, fuel rails, maybe a piston ring kit? (not too sure about that one), clutch and flywheel, and a shit load of dyno time!

OR
2)
----sell STi--->buy evo ---> new 720cc injectors, fuel pump, fuel rail, boost controller, cam gears, 272/272 cams, TBE, perrin FMIC, UTEC, and a garrett GT30R turbo! --->10k and one clutch drop later ---> new clutch ---> 12-14k later ---> 11's

dude this really cracked me up

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i dont get this ecu blahh shit.

motor go BOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM.. car go slower :shock:

Nick Koan · 2004-11-04, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by STIguy

My friend is half owner of P2motorsports. he probably knows more then anyone here and his supra is fast!

The advice we've just given you comes from many Subaru specific tuners. Not that your buddy doesn't know his shit when it comes to Supra's, but a vortec and a 'chip' is just plain nonsense for a STi.

doubleurx · 2004-11-04, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

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Originally Posted by STIguy

My friend is half owner of P2motorsports. he probably knows more then anyone here and his supra is fast!

The advice we've just given you comes from many Subaru specific tuners. Not that your buddy doesn't know his shit when it comes to Supra's, but a vortec and a 'chip' is just plain nonsense for a STi.

What are you talking about Nick, I'm doing those exact mods to my car before tonight's meet.

MikeSTI · 2004-11-04, 10:42 AM

he said "superchargers"

sperry · 2004-11-04, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSTI

he said "superchargers"

It's all about the "electric superchargers":

...slap a few of those on your STi and look out 11's!!

Libila · 2004-11-04, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by STIguy

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Originally Posted by Libila

Your friend gives horrible advice. BAN SUVS explained it perfect. We need feedback from you so we can help.

My friend is half owner of P2motorsports. he probably knows more then anyone here and his supra is fast!

Poovey (sp?) said that!? He did the clutch upgrade on my 2g talon. He would know better than to give advice that bad. You either misunderstood him or he was joking. He used to have a white STi but I heard it was totalled.

I think by "chip" he ment "ecu reflash".

STiguy- Listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about.

ArthurS · 2004-11-04, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

...slap a few of those on your STi and look out 11's!!....

......and blow the competition away

ScottyS · 2004-11-04, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ArthurS

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Originally Posted by sperry

...slap a few of those on your STi and look out 11's!!....

......and blow the competition away

This guy is well on his way to this result:

MikeK · 2004-11-04, 02:25 PM

A big turbo will have too much lag. You need a small turbo like this:

MikeK · 2004-11-04, 03:24 PM

Try this, more efficient than any turbocharger or supercharger!

Dean · 2004-11-04, 03:46 PM

I really hope you misunderstood what they guy from P2 Motorsports said... especially considering the motto on their web site...

"Knowledge is Power"

I had to laugh if they really told you what you wrote.

sti deede · 2004-11-04, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Try this, more efficient than any turbocharger or supercharger!

Great find Mike!

Maybe everyone should pick up two of these and install them on the front bumper.
Magnificent hamster consuming turbines!!

LetItRev · 2004-11-04, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sti deede

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Try this, more efficient than any turbocharger or supercharger!

Great find Mike!

Maybe everyone should pick up two of these and install them on the front bumper.
Magnificent hamster consuming turbines!!

Dammit Deede!

I just spit coffee all over my screen! LOL!!

sperry · 2004-11-04, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Try this, more efficient than any turbocharger or supercharger!

"Engineered by 14 year olds in an autoshop class, so you don't have to!"

JC · 2004-11-05, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

You planning on turbo and supercharging the car? Thats certainly a project.

I saw FATs supercharged and turbo'd STi last night. That car is FAST.

qksubi · 2004-11-06, 06:44 PM

Is this tyson's brother fuckin around again :shock:
I hope this guys not serious

May be this is what you want

tysonK · 2004-11-06, 07:43 PM

nah my brother only goes to fftoday.com forums.

2004-11-03, 08:38 PM	#1
STIguy n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	superturbo my buddy told me if i get a chip for my car and get a vortec superchargers, possibly a new factory clutch i should be able to run a low 11 quartermile maybe a high ten at sea level. is that true? __________________ UP UP UP UP uhhh STIGUY..........<--not a bench tuner----> DOWN DOWN YRREPS<-------------DORK

2004-11-03, 08:59 PM	#3
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	You planning on turbo and supercharging the car? Thats certainly a project. I would recommend a ECU reflash, a bigger turbo rather then a 'chip' and a vortec supercharger. Its a more proven technology, and I bet you could get into the 11s with enough tuning. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-11-03, 10:13 PM	#5
STIguy n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5	i dont get this ecu blahh shit. i was looking on ebay for the biggest turbo's i could find and i found a T-187. it is for a 18 wheel semi truck but i am sure i can get my girlfriend to fab up some stuff. i think i need to cut out part of my fire wall to fit the supercharger. i wanted the shwooosh sound when my car shiffs so i cut off part of the blowervalve and stuffed a sock in it. it sounds realy good but the car sounds like it makes the shwoosh sound when i excelerate __________________ UP UP UP UP uhhh STIGUY..........<--not a bench tuner----> DOWN DOWN YRREPS<-------------DORK

2004-11-03, 10:35 PM	#7
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I can't believe it took me this long to figure out that you're a troll. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-11-04, 10:42 AM	#12
MikeSTI EJ205 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,354 Car: 2004 STi Class: TSM I can't complain	he said "superchargers" __________________ Cobb Stage 2

2004-11-03, 09:04 PM	#4
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	Your friend gives horrible advice. BAN SUVS explained it perfect. We need feedback from you so we can help.

2004-11-04, 02:25 PM	#17
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	A big turbo will have too much lag. You need a small turbo like this: Attached Images

2004-11-04, 03:24 PM	#18
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Try this, more efficient than any turbocharger or supercharger!

2004-11-04, 03:46 PM	#19
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I really hope you misunderstood what they guy from P2 Motorsports said... especially considering the motto on their web site... "Knowledge is Power" I had to laugh if they really told you what you wrote. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-11-06, 06:44 PM	#24
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	Is this tyson's brother fuckin around again :shock: I hope this guys not serious May be this is what you want Attached Thumbnails

2004-11-06, 07:43 PM	#25
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	nah my brother only goes to fftoday.com forums. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?