For anyone with an 05' and wants a reflash!! - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

MikeSTI · 2004-11-19, 11:36 AM

looks like flashes could be a bad thing for smog

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6&page=1&pp=25

what does everyone think about this stuff

looks like another good thing about teh 04

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-11-19, 12:30 PM

Yet another reason new cars suck.

sybir · 2004-11-19, 12:42 PM

We're invesitgating with ECUtek how this is going to affect the '05 cars (that we just ordered software and licenses for, grrrr.)

We'll keep you guys updated with details.....

JC · 2004-11-19, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

Yet another reason new cars suck.

Hell ya, the only good CARB is on a small black right?

sperry · 2004-11-19, 01:28 PM

As long as it doesn't break the OBD-II plug, you'll pass in NV.

sybir · 2004-11-19, 01:52 PM

That's the whole issue being brought to light; this could cause cars to fail even if they blow totally clean and have no mods besides a flash (that usually makes the car run cleaner anyways.)

sperry · 2004-11-19, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sybir

That's the whole issue being brought to light; this could cause cars to fail even if they blow totally clean and have no mods besides a flash (that usually makes the car run cleaner anyways.)

In NV, an ODB-II car doesn't have to "blow" anything. There's a visual inspection that most places don't even bother with, and they plug in to the ODB-II port and ask the computer if there are any emmissions failures. That's it. As long as the reflash doesn't somehow report bad EGT temps or O2 failures or anything, you will pass.

MikeSTI · 2004-11-19, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

In NV, an ODB-II car doesn't have to "blow" anything. There's a visual inspection that most places don't even bother with, and they plug in to the ODB-II port and ask the computer if there are any emmissions failures. That's it. As long as the reflash doesn't somehow report bad EGT temps or O2 failures or anything, you will pass.

I dont think you read the post varry well :?

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I understand that the VIN function has been added. No big deal, not much of a concern as far as I can tell. VIN is a piec of cake, CVN is the one that bothers me.

I understand that the CVN function is still in place, I would not expect you to remove it as I'm sure you guys don't tuch 90% of the ROM, just the tables for fuel, timing, boost, and all the other tables that effect HP and drivability.
But from what I'm getting out of the description of the CVN, if you guys did not alter the CVN algorithm then it would spit out a calculated number from the ROM tables that would be much different than the stock CVN number that the algorithm would spit out if it was calculating the tables from the stock ROM.

So bottom line... if an ECU has a Flash, will the CVN algorithm come up w/ the same CVN if the car was stock? It doesn't seem likely to me, uless you guy alter the CVN algorithm to spit out the right number every time.

doubleurx · 2004-11-19, 03:42 PM

I dont' care. I'm still re-flashing my car. In 2005 California is also changing the smog certifications cylces to 6 years. I'll bet someone in the next 6 years will have a fix. If not, what's a new stock compliant ecu going to cost? I have seen wrx ecu's go for well under $1,000. So if that is the worst case scenerio I am looking at, then flash away.

sybir · 2004-11-19, 03:47 PM

Nick, did I mention that we love you?

Very much?

doubleurx · 2004-11-19, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sybir

Nick, did I mention that we love you?

Very much?

Brings a tear to my eye..............NOW LET"S FLASH THIS BEAST!

2004-11-19, 11:36 AM	#1
MikeSTI EJ205 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,354 Car: 2004 STi Class: TSM I can't complain	For anyone with an 05' and wants a reflash!! looks like flashes could be a bad thing for smog http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...6&page=1&pp=25 what does everyone think about this stuff looks like another good thing about teh 04 __________________ Cobb Stage 2

2004-11-19, 12:30 PM	#2
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Yet another reason new cars suck. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2004-11-19, 12:42 PM	#3
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	We're invesitgating with ECUtek how this is going to affect the '05 cars (that we just ordered software and licenses for, grrrr.) We'll keep you guys updated with details..... __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2004-11-19, 01:28 PM	#5
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	As long as it doesn't break the OBD-II plug, you'll pass in NV. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-11-19, 01:52 PM	#6
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	That's the whole issue being brought to light; this could cause cars to fail even if they blow totally clean and have no mods besides a flash (that usually makes the car run cleaner anyways.) __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2004-11-19, 03:42 PM	#9
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	I dont' care. I'm still re-flashing my car. In 2005 California is also changing the smog certifications cylces to 6 years. I'll bet someone in the next 6 years will have a fix. If not, what's a new stock compliant ecu going to cost? I have seen wrx ecu's go for well under $1,000. So if that is the worst case scenerio I am looking at, then flash away.

2004-11-19, 03:47 PM	#10
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Nick, did I mention that we love you? Very much? __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.