R.I.P. - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

dayofpain · 2005-09-15, 12:45 PM

So I have been a little out of it lately. A really good friend of mine died on Sunday night.

http://rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/09/12/108615.php

The people on the ride said that he was in the middle and he went down and almost hit others. They are also claiming that they were doing nothing wrong.

What saddens me to no end is how many lies people are telling to save thier own asses.

This is what I was told by an officer involved in the accident.

The riders all left VC at the same time heading down back towards reno. When they approached the flatspot where the virgina foothills are, a NHP clocked the front 6 riders @ 120+ MPH. After the group passed the NHP, he pulled out lights and sirens on. The group had already decided to run if they were persued. (This is usually figured out before any good ride, as nevada is a non pursuit state). So the front runners set the pace and Scott fell the back of the line. He had only been riding since June of this year, but was already an excellent novice rider. Once they cleared out of the flat and into the first set of turns it was clear the group was seperating. Scott fell even farther behind. The police officer states that while trying to negotiate a left hand hairpin turn the rider highsided his bike at close to 100 MPH. He was instantly ejected from the bike and thrown in front of it. He slid for around 100 ft before coliding with a gaurd rail post in between his legs forcing his upper body up and thus his head into the gaurd rail itself. The police officer states that from the impact he witnessed he knew that the rider was DOA. He proceeded down the hill and arrested several riders at the 7-11 where they awaited the rest of the group. He didnt stop at the accident. He radioed for help as he passed through it. Not one single rider I have spoke with involved has even told me a story that slightly resembled this. I was not there but the conflicting stories from everyone are starting to really upset me.

Scott taught me everything I know about car audio, he was there was noone else was to stand by me and actually help me learn. He got me the job I have now, he was a dear friend and will be missed.

MikeSTI · 2005-09-15, 12:53 PM

I'm sorry for your loss

, however it my have happened, he paid the ultimite price.

My prayers go to his family and friends.

sperry · 2005-09-15, 01:13 PM

That sucks man. I guess sometimes it's better just to take your licks w/ the cops and pay the ticket, at least if you're still a novice rider. It's a real shame to lose a friend over something like trying to avoid a speeding/reckless ticket.

My condolences.

ArthurS · 2005-09-15, 01:34 PM

Sorry to hear that Phil. My condolences to you, his family, and his friends.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2005-09-15, 01:43 PM

Sorry to hear about that man.

Theo · 2005-09-15, 02:20 PM

Bad News, That hill has taken too many friends...

Theo :-(

dayofpain · 2005-09-15, 02:58 PM

4 people this year. all friends, and scott was practically the closest thing to a mentor i ever had.

i hate gieger

ArthurS · 2005-09-15, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

i hate gieger

Coming back from VC about 3 weeks ago, 2 cars ahead of us was a Harley rider who took a turn to quickly and crashed into the rocks at a high rate of speed. He had to careflighted and I never heard if he actually survived.

How many more people will it take till people realize the danger of the road.

cody · 2005-09-16, 04:29 PM

That's awful dayofpain. Best wishes man.

Dean · 2005-09-16, 08:09 PM

Sorry it happened. While they were not personal friends, I was the event master for the Virginia City Hill Climb where the Viper went off and resulted in a double fatality. While that can't compare to losing a close freind, I was so closely involved with the recovery, investigation and meeting with the families that it had a huge impact on me, so I can only imagine what you are going through.

I would encourage you to discuss this with someone close to you and/or the clergy, counselor of your choice. Talking about it can help you to begin to heal. It may never make sense, and will likely be with you forever, but there are only positive things that can come from talking to someone about it.

doubleurx · 2005-09-17, 09:57 AM

Sorry to hear about that Phil. What Dean says will help.

JonnydaJibba · 2005-09-19, 06:30 AM

Really sorry man, I wish I wouldn't have read that so early in the day...that is downer.

SlickNick112 · 2005-09-19, 07:05 AM

Our prayers go out to his family and friends. Hang in there Phil. You have more friends that can help you if you need them.

Duckie · 2005-09-21, 01:09 AM

May all go well for you. My wishes go out to you.

2005-09-15, 12:45 PM	#1
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	R.I.P. So I have been a little out of it lately. A really good friend of mine died on Sunday night. http://rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/09/12/108615.php The people on the ride said that he was in the middle and he went down and almost hit others. They are also claiming that they were doing nothing wrong. What saddens me to no end is how many lies people are telling to save thier own asses. This is what I was told by an officer involved in the accident. The riders all left VC at the same time heading down back towards reno. When they approached the flatspot where the virgina foothills are, a NHP clocked the front 6 riders @ 120+ MPH. After the group passed the NHP, he pulled out lights and sirens on. The group had already decided to run if they were persued. (This is usually figured out before any good ride, as nevada is a non pursuit state). So the front runners set the pace and Scott fell the back of the line. He had only been riding since June of this year, but was already an excellent novice rider. Once they cleared out of the flat and into the first set of turns it was clear the group was seperating. Scott fell even farther behind. The police officer states that while trying to negotiate a left hand hairpin turn the rider highsided his bike at close to 100 MPH. He was instantly ejected from the bike and thrown in front of it. He slid for around 100 ft before coliding with a gaurd rail post in between his legs forcing his upper body up and thus his head into the gaurd rail itself. The police officer states that from the impact he witnessed he knew that the rider was DOA. He proceeded down the hill and arrested several riders at the 7-11 where they awaited the rest of the group. He didnt stop at the accident. He radioed for help as he passed through it. Not one single rider I have spoke with involved has even told me a story that slightly resembled this. I was not there but the conflicting stories from everyone are starting to really upset me. Scott taught me everything I know about car audio, he was there was noone else was to stand by me and actually help me learn. He got me the job I have now, he was a dear friend and will be missed. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2005-09-15, 12:53 PM	#2
MikeSTI EJ205 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,354 Car: 2004 STi Class: TSM I can't complain	I'm sorry for your loss , however it my have happened, he paid the ultimite price. My prayers go to his family and friends. __________________ Cobb Stage 2

2005-09-15, 01:13 PM	#3
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	That sucks man. I guess sometimes it's better just to take your licks w/ the cops and pay the ticket, at least if you're still a novice rider. It's a real shame to lose a friend over something like trying to avoid a speeding/reckless ticket. My condolences. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2005-09-15, 01:34 PM	#4
ArthurS EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,707 Car: 2011 Chevy Battle Wagon	Sorry to hear that Phil. My condolences to you, his family, and his friends. __________________ Captain Murphy: I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass. Be a hitter, babe.

2005-09-15, 01:43 PM	#5
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Sorry to hear about that man. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2005-09-15, 02:20 PM	#6
Theo EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 133	Bad News, That hill has taken too many friends... Theo :-( __________________ White WRX Family Wagon

2005-09-15, 02:58 PM	#7
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	4 people this year. all friends, and scott was practically the closest thing to a mentor i ever had. i hate gieger __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2005-09-16, 04:29 PM	#9
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	That's awful dayofpain. Best wishes man. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2005-09-16, 08:09 PM	#10
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Sorry it happened. While they were not personal friends, I was the event master for the Virginia City Hill Climb where the Viper went off and resulted in a double fatality. While that can't compare to losing a close freind, I was so closely involved with the recovery, investigation and meeting with the families that it had a huge impact on me, so I can only imagine what you are going through. I would encourage you to discuss this with someone close to you and/or the clergy, counselor of your choice. Talking about it can help you to begin to heal. It may never make sense, and will likely be with you forever, but there are only positive things that can come from talking to someone about it. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2005-09-17, 09:57 AM	#11
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	Sorry to hear about that Phil. What Dean says will help.

2005-09-19, 06:30 AM	#12
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Really sorry man, I wish I wouldn't have read that so early in the day...that is downer.

2005-09-19, 07:05 AM	#13
SlickNick112 EJ251 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 603 Car: '06 Impreza WRX STi Class: Out of class! I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal. People know me.	Our prayers go out to his family and friends. Hang in there Phil. You have more friends that can help you if you need them. __________________ "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " *~Frank Sinatra*

2005-09-21, 01:09 AM	#14
Duckie EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reno Posts: 309	May all go well for you. My wishes go out to you. __________________ quack