Let's argue about timetrials - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Kevin M · 2006-06-10, 07:08 PM

Dean boycotts Club Trials, especially if there's a trackday he can be at within a 3 state radius.

Dean · 2006-06-10, 07:36 PM

I choose not to participate at this time. That is hardly a boycott.

Kevin M · 2006-06-10, 07:42 PM

Boycott

The exact reasons you gave me about not running at Club Trials were disagreements about how they were run.

Dean · 2006-06-10, 08:30 PM

"...expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of coercion." I have different reasons for Lovelock and RFR events, non of which meet that definition.

The short version of the reasons are:

Lovelock: Speeds I would drive vs. safety (equipment in my car, at the site, and location, and site conditions.) This is no way disparaging of the event, or the organizers, but a personal weighing of the risks vs. benefits.

RFR: As an instructor I can typically pay a similar amount of money that gets me 1 day at a SCCA RFR day for 2 days at an Audi or other club event often with food provided, and not having to work a corner, and with my car insurance fully in force. Again, not disparaging in any way.

Would I prefer that they run a different type of event that was more to my liking, yes, but again, that is personal preference/opinion/choice, not a boycott.

P.S. I have participated at Solo1s at lovelock in the past with the old course design.

Kevin M · 2006-06-10, 08:36 PM

Okay fine, Dean doesn't boycott Club Trials. He just goes to them as often as someone who IS boycotting them.

Dean · 2006-06-10, 08:43 PM

I have been to a Lovelock solo1 more recently than a strip club, concert, baseball, soccer, football game, or opera... I must be boycotting those as well.

MikeK · 2006-06-10, 09:00 PM

I'm boycotting this thread

Kevin M · 2006-06-10, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

I'm boycotting this thread

Poorly, at that.

2006-06-10, 07:08 PM	#1
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Dean boycotts Club Trials, especially if there's a trackday he can be at within a 3 state radius. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-06-10, 07:36 PM	#2
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I choose not to participate at this time. That is hardly a boycott. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-06-10, 07:42 PM	#3
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Boycott The exact reasons you gave me about not running at Club Trials were disagreements about how they were run. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-06-10, 08:30 PM	#4
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	"...expression of protest or disfavor or as a means of coercion." I have different reasons for Lovelock and RFR events, non of which meet that definition. The short version of the reasons are: Lovelock: Speeds I would drive vs. safety (equipment in my car, at the site, and location, and site conditions.) This is no way disparaging of the event, or the organizers, but a personal weighing of the risks vs. benefits. RFR: As an instructor I can typically pay a similar amount of money that gets me 1 day at a SCCA RFR day for 2 days at an Audi or other club event often with food provided, and not having to work a corner, and with my car insurance fully in force. Again, not disparaging in any way. Would I prefer that they run a different type of event that was more to my liking, yes, but again, that is personal preference/opinion/choice, not a boycott. P.S. I have participated at Solo1s at lovelock in the past with the old course design. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-06-10, 08:36 PM	#5
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Okay fine, Dean doesn't boycott Club Trials. He just goes to them as often as someone who IS boycotting them. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-06-10, 08:43 PM	#6
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I have been to a Lovelock solo1 more recently than a strip club, concert, baseball, soccer, football game, or opera... I must be boycotting those as well. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-06-10, 09:00 PM	#7
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	I'm boycotting this thread

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