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dayofpain · 2007-11-02, 08:55 PM

i need more power.

no idea where to go from here without wrecking the block...

eff this ess in the ayyy

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-02, 09:13 PM

dayofpain · 2007-11-02, 09:14 PM

why are there pancakes in the silverware drawer?

you mean why is there silverware in the pancake drawer? WUSSSSSUUUp

AtomicLabMonkey · 2007-11-03, 06:14 AM

Add lightness instead of power.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-03, 07:35 AM

Can you ADD lightness?

sperry · 2007-11-03, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Can you ADD lightness?

Helium.

cody · 2007-11-03, 12:07 PM

Have you data logged at this elevation? If I had a setup like your's, I'd get a custom tune for up here.

dayofpain · 2007-11-03, 12:41 PM

i think i have added about as much lightness as i can. i mean i gots no subframes!

i have adjusted boost for this elevation. ill do the rest when i get street tuner.

i really need just a few more small power adders to get to 400 to the ground on a mustang dyno.

for the record that would be 23 more hp.

any ideas gentlemen?

i spose i could list my power mods and maybe you guys will see something i left out.

cobb protune
aps 70mm CAI
aps dr725 FMIC
aps bpv
aps turbo inlet pipe
gt52 turbo
smc meth injection 100%
tanabe full turbo-back catless 80mm
gtspec V2 header
worx tuning crank pulley

i can only think of a few things but i dunno if theyd really be power adders.

cobb inconel uppipe. or swap to aps full header.
tgv deletes
phoenlic gaskets er w/e they are called.
ported TB

dunno if any of that would really net some power gains but its all i can figure out .

sperry · 2007-11-03, 01:26 PM

TGVs would help a bit with flow... but really, I think you're looking at forged pistons and/or head work to really take the next step. You need more air & fuel in there... which means more flow and/or more boost.

You could just crank the boost up and try to jam more fuel in there to keep things from detonating... but I'd be worried about the pistons. You're right at what I'd call the safe limit for a stock bottom end. Sure some people make 400+ whp on a stock shortblock, but that's pushing it IMO.

knucklesplitter · 2007-11-03, 01:36 PM

TGV Deletes would be worth 10+hp at your power level. You should have done them when you had the manifold off for the APS turbo inlet! If you decide to do those I'll give you a free set of 8mm phenolic spacers to throw on there too (I have made and sold 100+ sets of these in 3mm & 8mm thick). I also have STI TGV housings that I could sell you to speed the swap up.

Do not go for the APS header. The uppipe is too small (1.75"OD) for your power level.

sperry · 2007-11-03, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

TGV Deletes would be worth 10+hp at your power level. You should have done them when you had the manifold off for the APS turbo inlet! If you decide to do those I'll give you a free set of 8mm phenolic spacers to throw on there too (I have made and sold 100+ sets of these in 3mm & 8mm thick). I also have STI TGV housings that I could sell you to speed the swap up.

Do not go for the APS header. The uppipe is too small (1.75"OD) for your power level.

On a hijack/side note... you still working on a bugeye hood scoop delete? My hood is just sitting on the roof of my car if you want to test fit against it... hell, you could even borrow the whole damn thing for a while... I won't need it until I have the motor built.

dayofpain · 2007-11-03, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

TGV Deletes would be worth 10+hp at your power level. You should have done them when you had the manifold off for the APS turbo inlet! If you decide to do those I'll give you a free set of 8mm phenolic spacers to throw on there too (I have made and sold 100+ sets of these in 3mm & 8mm thick). I also have STI TGV housings that I could sell you to speed the swap up.

Do not go for the APS header. The uppipe is too small (1.75"OD) for your power level.

wow that would be awesome. save me a chunk of change for the gaskets. if grimmspeed has cores there ill just pay the core charge and send mine back for refund. but if they dont ill for sure buy yours.

theres a pretty big step down from my uppipe to my turbo at the moment. im wondering how i should proceed with the porting and whatnot.

knucklesplitter · 2007-11-03, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

On a hijack/side note... you still working on a bugeye hood scoop delete? My hood is just sitting on the roof of my car if you want to test fit against it... hell, you could even borrow the whole damn thing for a while... I won't need it until I have the motor built.

Yes. I'll pm or call you. Thanks...

knucklesplitter · 2007-11-03, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

theres a pretty big step down from my uppipe to my turbo at the moment. im wondering how i should proceed with the porting and whatnot.

The uppipe bigger than the turbo hole? It would worth something to get the turbo ported for a smoother transition. How much I dunno.

dayofpain · 2007-11-03, 02:23 PM

turbo hole bigger than upipe

knucklesplitter · 2007-11-03, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

turbo hole bigger than upipe

That is not as much of a problem as the other way around, but still - there must be something to be gained - spool and a couple horses. The last 1/2" of the uppipe can be ported for transition, but that's still a quick change in diameter. Maybe a bigger uppipe would be worth it - the turbo housing designer seems to think you need a bigger one (based on the hole size he spec'd).

NevadaSTi · 2007-11-03, 05:30 PM

fully ported heads?

BTW, I have an extra set of 05 STi heads.

dayofpain · 2007-11-03, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaSTi

fully ported heads?

BTW, I have an extra set of 05 STi heads.

ORLY ? how much?

cody · 2007-11-04, 10:39 AM

BTW, are you still on the stock boost solenoid?

dayofpain · 2007-11-04, 01:50 PM

perrin sillynoid

NevadaSTi · 2007-11-05, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

ORLY ? how much?

They are bare heads, not complete. They were also sitting in the back seat of my car at the last dinner meet.

400 obo

dayofpain · 2007-11-05, 01:02 PM

next time ill smach da winder and take dem shits.

cody · 2007-11-05, 02:12 PM

"Hey! We don't take kindly to smachin' winders 'round here."

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-05, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

next time ill smach da winder and take dem shits.

...what?

NevadaSTi · 2007-11-06, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

...what?

I think he is refering to doing something that would result in some broken knee caps. Just a guess.

2007-11-02, 08:55 PM	#1
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	pissed i need more power. no idea where to go from here without wrecking the block... eff this ess in the ayyy __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-02, 09:13 PM	#2
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	__________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-11-02, 09:14 PM	#3
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	why are there pancakes in the silverware drawer? you mean why is there silverware in the pancake drawer? WUSSSSSUUUp __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-03, 06:14 AM	#4
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Add lightness instead of power. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me." Last edited by AtomicLabMonkey; 2007-11-03 at 06:20 AM.

2007-11-03, 07:35 AM	#5
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Can you ADD lightness? __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-11-03, 12:07 PM	#7
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Have you data logged at this elevation? If I had a setup like your's, I'd get a custom tune for up here. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-11-03, 12:41 PM	#8
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	i think i have added about as much lightness as i can. i mean i gots no subframes! i have adjusted boost for this elevation. ill do the rest when i get street tuner. i really need just a few more small power adders to get to 400 to the ground on a mustang dyno. for the record that would be 23 more hp. any ideas gentlemen? i spose i could list my power mods and maybe you guys will see something i left out. cobb protune aps 70mm CAI aps dr725 FMIC aps bpv aps turbo inlet pipe gt52 turbo smc meth injection 100% tanabe full turbo-back catless 80mm gtspec V2 header worx tuning crank pulley i can only think of a few things but i dunno if theyd really be power adders. cobb inconel uppipe. or swap to aps full header. tgv deletes phoenlic gaskets er w/e they are called. ported TB dunno if any of that would really net some power gains but its all i can figure out . __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty." Last edited by dayofpain; 2007-11-03 at 06:52 PM. Reason: forgot my madtyte jdm crank pulley

2007-11-03, 01:26 PM	#9
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	TGVs would help a bit with flow... but really, I think you're looking at forged pistons and/or head work to really take the next step. You need more air & fuel in there... which means more flow and/or more boost. You could just crank the boost up and try to jam more fuel in there to keep things from detonating... but I'd be worried about the pistons. You're right at what I'd call the safe limit for a stock bottom end. Sure some people make 400+ whp on a stock shortblock, but that's pushing it IMO. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-11-03, 01:36 PM	#10
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	TGV Deletes would be worth 10+hp at your power level. You should have done them when you had the manifold off for the APS turbo inlet! If you decide to do those I'll give you a free set of 8mm phenolic spacers to throw on there too (I have made and sold 100+ sets of these in 3mm & 8mm thick). I also have STI TGV housings that I could sell you to speed the swap up. Do not go for the APS header. The uppipe is too small (1.75"OD) for your power level.

2007-11-03, 02:23 PM	#15
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	turbo hole bigger than upipe __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-03, 05:30 PM	#17
NevadaSTi EJ251 Real Name: Brian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minden, Nv. Posts: 989 Car: 1994 Toyota 4Runner Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once	fully ported heads? BTW, I have an extra set of 05 STi heads. __________________ The last living thing on earth will be me. I'll step on the last cockroach.

2007-11-04, 10:39 AM	#19
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	BTW, are you still on the stock boost solenoid? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo. Last edited by cody; 2007-11-04 at 10:49 AM.

2007-11-04, 01:50 PM	#20
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	perrin sillynoid __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-05, 01:02 PM	#22
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	next time ill smach da winder and take dem shits. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-05, 02:12 PM	#23
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	"Hey! We don't take kindly to smachin' winders 'round here." __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

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