F1 Season 2014! - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

sperry · 2013-11-25, 09:52 AM

Time to start the new thread... the silly season is upon us!

It looks like McLaren and Ferrari shooting themselves in the foot by not keeping Perez / hiring Hulkenberg might mean I'm going to be a Force India fan for 2014, since there are rumors both those guys ending up over there.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3...ll-stay-in-f1/

Those are two fantastic young drivers, each capable of winning a world championship if given a competitive car.

And here's to hoping Williams returns to being a top-tier team with the new rules... I'd love for Massa to have one more shot at a championship in the next few seasons. I'm still gutted about 2008... Massa deserves one more shot, but if Ferrari couldn't build a car that could match the Red Bull over the last 4 years, I don't know who can.

MattR · 2013-11-25, 11:21 AM

Again, I don't understand the McLaren direction. It seems Perez performed well in a sub-par car, it's likely more about money than his performance.

For Massa's sake, I'm hoping the talented engineers at Williams can pull it together for 2014...

sperry · 2013-11-25, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR

Again, I don't understand the McLaren direction. It seems Perez performed well in a sub-par car, it's likely more about money than his performance.

For Massa's sake, I'm hoping the talented engineers at Williams can pull it together for 2014...

Steve Matchett said it best in the post race show... "What more was McLaren expecting out of Perez?" I mean seriously... what would he have had to do to keep his spot? Beat Vettel in a car that's seconds off the pace? Plus Whitmarsh going out of his way to find him a ride after they fired him?

Something weird went down at McLaren... I don't think Perez is getting fired over his performance... there must be some nonsense going on where Perez's sponsors are at odds with one of McLaren's other sponsors or something.

Nick Koan · 2013-11-25, 12:57 PM

I read somewhere (pure speculation) that it could have been because Mexico was dropped from the 2014 calendar, so now Telmex doesn't want to uphold their sponsorship deal.

MattR · 2013-11-25, 01:22 PM

*Mexica

MattR · 2013-11-25, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

I read somewhere (pure speculation) that it could have been because Mexico was dropped from the 2014 calendar, so now Telmex doesn't want to uphold their sponsorship deal.

Yes, that would make some sense, but then don't you think they'd be blowing up Hulkenberg's phone instead? or DiResta? I can't find anywhere where it states that Kevin Magnussen has an exceptional amount of backing either...

There are several driver's in the 2013 championship that I would just love to see behind the wheel of a top team chassis, included would be Hulk, Di Resta and Bottas....

Nick Koan · 2013-11-25, 01:48 PM

I'm guessing they can get Magnussen at rock bottom prices, since he is already part of their new driver program.

This is assuming that for some reason McLaren has virtually no budget for their second driver right now, which seems a little hard to believe.

skimonkey30 · 2013-11-26, 07:26 PM

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/11/2...ne-last-blast/

You're welcome

skimonkey30 · 2013-11-26, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR

*Mexica

MattR · 2013-12-09, 02:32 PM

This could be the most gimicky and stupid rule change I've heard of....Double points for the finale?
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../12/15339.html

How does that make any sense...not impressed. I wish they would have given points for Pole, or most laps ahead of this. (Although that wouldn't help the percieved issues either)

Scott, not sure how that will work in Fantasy F1....but you can be sure I'm saving a Vettel pick for the season -ender...

MattR · 2013-12-09, 02:33 PM

Also this....

Quote:

Driver numbers
Drivers will be asked to choose their race number, between 2 and 99, for the duration of their career in the FIA Formula One World Championship. Number 1 will be reserved for the current world champion, should he choose to use it.

If more than one driver choses the same number, priority will be given to the driver who finished highest in the previous year’s championship.

Permanent numbers? Hello Nathcar...

sperry · 2013-12-09, 03:28 PM

None of that retardation is as bad as the trackside sprinklers Bernie wanted.

Double points shouldn't be terribly hard in the FF1 code... I already had to implement 1/2 points for that one shortened race a few years back.

MattR · 2013-12-09, 04:15 PM

At least the sprinklers never happened.

sperry · 2013-12-13, 02:20 PM

Well, Perez and Hulkenberg are at Force India... which means they just might be a spoiler if their car is up to snuff with the new rules. They certainly have a pretty talented lineup.

And it looks like Sutil is in at Sauber, which is good for Sutil but not great... I think he's probably a more competitive driver than the 2014 Sauber car will be.

As of today, there appear to be just 4 open seats on the grid: one at Sauber alongside Sutil, one with Marussa next to Bianchi, and both seats at Caterham.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-line-u...rmula-1-teams/

Ferrari seems to have the edge by a lot over everyone else with Alonso and Raikkonen, but both those guys have seemed to have problems with Ferrari (or Ferrari has had problems with them, more accurately), and I don't know that they'll get along with each other well, especially if they're both winning. The worst thing for Ferrari may be if they have a very competitive car leading to their teammates in-fighting to the detriment of both of them. 'Course, all Ferrari likely cares about is the Constructor's Championship... which they better win in 2014, because I highly doubt both or even one of those guys will be at Ferrari in 2015.

Nick Koan · 2013-12-30, 12:09 PM

Not exactly related to next season, but Schumacher is in the hospital in a coma after a skiing accident. Critical condition.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,2225915.story

MikeK · 2014-01-16, 04:53 PM

Bernie in trouble for taking bribes:

Google News

Bob Danger · 2014-01-16, 06:41 PM

And Ron Dennis staged a "internal coup".

Kevin M · 2014-01-16, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Danger

And Ron Dennis staged a "internal coup".

[1]Citation required

MattR · 2014-01-16, 10:20 PM

Maybe a US based F1 team could become reality again? Gene Haas has the funding, I think it would be a cool opportunity...

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/sto...rmula-one-team

Bob Danger · 2014-01-17, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M

[1]Citation required

It's everywhere BBC, Adam Cooper's blog, Formula1.com.

I'm curious as to what happened in 07 between Alonso, and Ron Dennis. Can someone fill me in.

Nick Koan · 2014-01-22, 12:55 PM

Force India's 2014 car

MattR · 2014-01-22, 02:26 PM

The black looks good.

Nick Koan · 2014-01-23, 09:23 AM

The the color scheme is nice.

But, now here is what everyone is waiting for. Williams releases some "pics" of their 2014 car, with the new nose for the new regs.

It's certainly different than last years.

Nick Koan · 2014-01-24, 10:55 AM

Moar noses:

Lotus goes a different route

Interesting that the 'horns' aren't completely symmetrical.

McLaren is a little more like Williams, but a little prettier

And a quick photoshop job

k-dogg39 · 2014-01-24, 12:21 PM

at the photoshop

2013-11-25, 09:52 AM	#1
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	F1 Season 2014! Time to start the new thread... the silly season is upon us! It looks like McLaren and Ferrari shooting themselves in the foot by not keeping Perez / hiring Hulkenberg might mean I'm going to be a Force India fan for 2014, since there are rumors both those guys ending up over there. http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3...ll-stay-in-f1/ Those are two fantastic young drivers, each capable of winning a world championship if given a competitive car. And here's to hoping Williams returns to being a top-tier team with the new rules... I'd love for Massa to have one more shot at a championship in the next few seasons. I'm still gutted about 2008... Massa deserves one more shot, but if Ferrari couldn't build a car that could match the Red Bull over the last 4 years, I don't know who can. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2013-11-25, 11:21 AM	#2
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Again, I don't understand the McLaren direction. It seems Perez performed well in a sub-par car, it's likely more about money than his performance. For Massa's sake, I'm hoping the talented engineers at Williams can pull it together for 2014... __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2013-11-25, 12:57 PM	#4
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I read somewhere (pure speculation) that it could have been because Mexico was dropped from the 2014 calendar, so now Telmex doesn't want to uphold their sponsorship deal. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2013-11-25, 01:22 PM	#5
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Mexica __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”*

2013-11-25, 01:48 PM	#7
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I'm guessing they can get Magnussen at rock bottom prices, since he is already part of their new driver program. This is assuming that for some reason McLaren has virtually no budget for their second driver right now, which seems a little hard to believe. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2013-11-26, 07:26 PM	#8
skimonkey30 Mr. Romano Real Name: David Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 932 Car: 2013 F150 Class: Mellow Yellow Rubbin's Racin	http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/11/2...ne-last-blast/ You're welcome __________________ That would be Mr. Dipshit to you.........sir

2013-12-09, 02:32 PM	#10
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	This could be the most gimicky and stupid rule change I've heard of....Double points for the finale? http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../12/15339.html How does that make any sense...not impressed. I wish they would have given points for Pole, or most laps ahead of this. (Although that wouldn't help the percieved issues either) Scott, not sure how that will work in Fantasy F1....but you can be sure I'm saving a Vettel pick for the season -ender... __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2013-12-09, 03:28 PM	#12
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	None of that retardation is as bad as the trackside sprinklers Bernie wanted. Double points shouldn't be terribly hard in the FF1 code... I already had to implement 1/2 points for that one shortened race a few years back. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2013-12-09, 04:15 PM	#13
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	At least the sprinklers never happened. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2013-12-13, 02:20 PM	#14
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Well, Perez and Hulkenberg are at Force India... which means they just might be a spoiler if their car is up to snuff with the new rules. They certainly have a pretty talented lineup. And it looks like Sutil is in at Sauber, which is good for Sutil but not great... I think he's probably a more competitive driver than the 2014 Sauber car will be. As of today, there appear to be just 4 open seats on the grid: one at Sauber alongside Sutil, one with Marussa next to Bianchi, and both seats at Caterham. http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-line-u...rmula-1-teams/ Ferrari seems to have the edge by a lot over everyone else with Alonso and Raikkonen, but both those guys have seemed to have problems with Ferrari (or Ferrari has had problems with them, more accurately), and I don't know that they'll get along with each other well, especially if they're both winning. The worst thing for Ferrari may be if they have a very competitive car leading to their teammates in-fighting to the detriment of both of them. 'Course, all Ferrari likely cares about is the Constructor's Championship... which they better win in 2014, because I highly doubt both or even one of those guys will be at Ferrari in 2015. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2013-12-30, 12:09 PM	#15
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Not exactly related to next season, but Schumacher is in the hospital in a coma after a skiing accident. Critical condition. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,2225915.story __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2014-01-16, 04:53 PM	#16
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Bernie in trouble for taking bribes: Google News

2014-01-16, 06:41 PM	#17
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	And Ron Dennis staged a "internal coup". __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2014-01-16, 10:20 PM	#19
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Maybe a US based F1 team could become reality again? Gene Haas has the funding, I think it would be a cool opportunity... http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/sto...rmula-one-team __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2014-01-22, 12:55 PM	#21
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Force India's 2014 car __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2014-01-22, 02:26 PM	#22
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	The black looks good. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2014-01-23, 09:23 AM	#23
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	The the color scheme is nice. But, now here is what everyone is waiting for. Williams releases some "pics" of their 2014 car, with the new nose for the new regs. It's certainly different than last years. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2014-01-24, 10:55 AM	#24
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Moar noses: Lotus goes a different route Interesting that the 'horns' aren't completely symmetrical. McLaren is a little more like Williams, but a little prettier And a quick photoshop job __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2014-01-24, 12:21 PM	#25
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	at the photoshop

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