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Old 2009-03-24, 07:39 AM   #1
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Default GrimmSpeed 38mm V-Band EWG is here! Angled side-outlet

http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=121


An External Wastegate (EWG) allows exhaust gases to be diverted prior to entering the turbo; thus creating a quicker turbo spool. GrimmSpeed’s EWG has a larger diameter than the stock internal wastegate; this allows the exhaust gas to be released faster, which improves boost control, maintains maximum boost longer in the rpm range, and extends the life of the turbo. Moving the wastegate out of the turbo relieves the turbo from the massive amounts of turbulence that the stock internal wastegate creates.

The EWG Up-Pipe is built from 304 SS with thick 13mm 304 SS flanges. A flex section has been added; this will extend the life of the product(allows expansion/contraction of pipe without cracking) and will lead to less exhaust leaks. Users should expect gains in the 15-40hp range when tuned for the EWG set-up.

Also included in the EWG Up-Pipe package, a bracket to hold the stock internal wastegate shut. This bracket is helpful because the turbo door does not need to be welded shut, decreasing the chance for leaks and allowing for easy removal if necessary.

The GrimmSpeed EWG Up-Pipe Kit fits more downpipes than any other EWG Up-Pipe on the market.

Quick Facts:
  • Quality Flex Joint - We've sold well more than 600 pipes with flex joints and have only had at most, 2 issues with the flex joints.
  • Flow through Flex - There are no big steps in the flow path of our flex joint. Our flex is not located on a bend so there is very minimal flow loss(if any) through the flex.
  • Curved EWG Side Outlet - Our ewg up pipes come with an angled side outlet which allows us to obtain optimal flow to the external wastegate,
  • 2.0mm Piping Thickness - Almost all pipes on the market use a 1.5mm thick piping wall, not us. We use a 2mm thick piping wall(33% thicker than all of our competition!)
  • Pipe to Flange Connection - Much smoother connection. Piping is ported flush with flange so there is no step into the pipe.
  • 1.92" Inlet - Perfect match to gasket allowing a little room for gasket movement(anything bigger, ie 2", will almost be guaranteed to put the gasket in the flow which is horrible for flow).
  • 1.75" Outlet - Narrowing down from 1.92 to 1.75 acts as a funnel. Also very close match to most common turbos so you have much less step going into the turbo(unlike a straight through 2" which creates a huge step going into most common turbos vf's, tdo4s, etc)
  • Massive 304SS flanges - These flanges are beasts in person!
  • Complete stainless steel construction (pipe, flex section, flanges).
  • Flex joint that is NOT located in the bend which adds life expectancy to the flex section. many other up pipes have a flex right in a sharp bend so all the exhaust/turbulence is hitting up against it.
Even fits large TurboXS 4" Bellmouth Downpipe!! Which means is will fit almost every single downpipe on the market.









New Tial 38mm V-Band compared to current Tial 44mm V-Band.



IWG Block-Off Bracket Options:
TD04
VF Series
FP 20G
DB 20/18G
FP 3" Inlet Green/Red
Turbochargers.com 18G


Price: 319.99

http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=121

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Old 2009-06-17, 01:48 PM   #2
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Just started the Nasioc group buy on these!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1785577

Get them at a super low price before it's too late!!

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Old 2009-06-22, 11:40 AM   #3
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I'm sorry if there is a better place to put this question, but can you help me understand how allowing exhaust gases to be diverted before the turbo helps create quicker spool? This isn't a flame, I've just always struggled understanding how ewg's work
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I'm sorry if there is a better place to put this question, but can you help me understand how allowing exhaust gases to be diverted before the turbo helps create quicker spool? This isn't a flame, I've just always struggled understanding how ewg's work
From my understanding, it's not the external dump that makes the spool better (though I guess having a cleaner downpipe due to not having the internal wastegate plumbing might help). It's that the EWG's are just bigger/higher quality wastegates that flow better. Basically, with a better wastegate you can delay longer before opening it and still hit the target boost w/o spiking, thus improving spool up time.
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An External Wastegate (EWG) allows exhaust gases to be diverted prior to entering the turbo; thus creating a quicker turbo spool. GrimmSpeed’s EWG has a larger diameter than the stock internal wastegate; this allows the exhaust gas to be released faster, which improves boost control, maintains maximum boost longer in the rpm range, and extends the life of the turbo.
That first sentence is what confused me, but I think I see what you're saying. Since it is more efficient at bleeding off excess exhaust gases, it doesn't need to start doing so as early as stock, so more exhaust gas mass and velocity get to the turbo sooner, creating quicker spool than stock..? Or am I still missing it? Feel free to move this to somewhere other than Grimmspeed's thread, but I figured the clarification would give them a free bump, and kind of a free advertisement
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I think you said it better than I did! I don't think the EWGs make a massive difference, but I would guess on larger turbos it's quantifiable.
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Then I guess you did a great job of explaining it Thanks for the help. The only bad thing is that the clarification made me realize there's still a bunch about turbos I don't understand... Guess I have some reading to do if I plan on buying an STi in the future
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Not a problem! thanks for posting guys

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Old 2009-11-04, 09:34 AM   #9
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As of about 2 hours ago our Up Pipes, EWG Up Pipes, and Crosspipes are back in stock!!

http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22

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