Snow Tires 2007 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

cody · 2007-06-25, 02:43 PM

I'm going to want dedicated snows for my stock WRX rims before the first snow. Please post up if you see any good deals on a good set of snows or if you know what the best choices are.

Kevin M · 2007-06-25, 02:47 PM

I will be debating between Dunlop M3s and the Bridgetone REVO-1s this year. After being int he car with Dean, and he was almost unab;e to break traction in Debbie's car on sloped ice, I'm sold on their grip. It's jsut down to wether I decide I need more longevity out of them, and decent dry performance. Then I'll go with the M3s again.

cody · 2007-06-25, 03:02 PM

I've heard nothing but great things about the M3's, and since 90% of the time, I won't be driving on snow/ice, dry performance will be a plus. Didn't Dunlop replace the M3's with D3's or something? Also, aren't M3's geared more toward a low profile setup?

Dean · 2007-06-25, 03:10 PM

This was the story back in 2005. Not sure anyone has made significant changes since then.

http://seccs.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3831

Feel free to see if TireRack has done any updated testing since then. I don't think CR has.

cody · 2007-06-25, 03:17 PM

CR hasn't done anything since November of 2005 in the way of Winter Tires:

cody · 2007-06-25, 03:27 PM

I don't see anything new on Tire Rack either. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=64

But if anybody hears anything new, post it up.

cody · 2007-06-25, 03:31 PM

Is this article from 2005? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=65

Nick Koan · 2007-06-25, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Is this article from 2005? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=65

Yes. The test charts is dated 2005.

But, here are the Tire rack winter tire survey results. They are constantly updated as both knowledgeable and unknowledgeable people share their opinions.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...sp?type=W&VT=C

Nick Koan · 2007-06-25, 03:37 PM

Also, here is a list of their articles on testing.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...let?perfType=W

I'm assuming we won't see any 2007 ones until the start of the 2007 winter tire buying season.

cody · 2007-06-25, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nKoan

Yes. The test charts is dated 2005.

But, here are the Tire rack winter tire survey results. They are constantly updated as both knowledgeable and unknowledgeable people share their opinions.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...sp?type=W&VT=C

Looks like the Dunlop 3D's are better than the M3's in most categories, but it's close. They're only $96 each in stock 205/55/16 too. Is there any reason I shouldn't get a tire that's supposedly designed to be used for low profile setups like the Dunlops are (according to Tirerack)? I don't think the WRX stock size is "low profile" but I guess if they make them in that size, why not?

Dean · 2007-06-25, 03:55 PM

You have to take the survey results with a stiff drink of tequila IMHO. Almost nobody drives the tires back to back and their only frame of reference is often comparing their worn out old ones to their new ones.

I trust the TR test much more than the survey results.

Doesn't look like they have tested the D3 yet, but I would bet they will by Nov.

bxracer69 · 2007-06-25, 04:08 PM

I absolutely loved my Winterforces... I put 2 full snow seasons on mine without a problem, and they were not that expensive. Here is the link for tire rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....ce&model=M%2BS

cody · 2007-06-25, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bxracer69

I absolutely loved my Winterforces... I put 2 full snow seasons on mine without a problem, and they were not that expensive. Here is the link for tire rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....ce&model=M%2BS

Man, they look like good rally tires.

Kevin M · 2007-06-25, 04:13 PM

Rallycross maybe, but the sidewalls on those things are like double-strength rubberbands. I had a set on my Aerostar. Good snow tires though.

cody · 2007-06-25, 04:16 PM

Dude, they have snowy mtns right there on the side!

Kevin M · 2007-06-25, 04:17 PM

Much like, say, Dunlop WinterSport M3s.

cody · 2007-06-25, 04:21 PM

I don't see it: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...inter+Sport+M3

Kevin M · 2007-06-25, 04:25 PM

Under the word DUNLOP, right after the M+S designation. All "winter" tires have it.

cody · 2007-06-25, 04:32 PM

Well sure, but I want my snow capped mtns built into the tread...

Kevin M · 2007-06-25, 05:30 PM

Okay, you got me there.

Joeyy · 2007-06-26, 06:37 AM

This is the tire that is going on my stock rims in a week or so.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=V

$89 bucks

k-dogg39 · 2007-06-26, 07:13 AM

I got the Nitto NT-SN1 tires before this last winter (which wasn't much of a test) but they seemed to handle pretty well when it actually did snow.

cody · 2007-06-26, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeyy

This is the tire that is going on my stock rims in a week or so.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=V

$89 bucks

I don't see those being much of an improvement over the Proxes 4's I've been running in the winter since I moved up here. They're only for "light snow".

Kevin M · 2007-06-26, 09:01 PM

Bridgestone REVO1 on closeout at TireRack.

Dean · 2007-06-26, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Bridgestone REVO1 on closeout at TireRack.

That's a deal. May have to get some. 225/45-17s are $119.

2007-06-25, 02:43 PM	#1
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Snow Tires 2007 I'm going to want dedicated snows for my stock WRX rims before the first snow. Please post up if you see any good deals on a good set of snows or if you know what the best choices are. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 02:47 PM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I will be debating between Dunlop M3s and the Bridgetone REVO-1s this year. After being int he car with Dean, and he was almost unab;e to break traction in Debbie's car on sloped ice, I'm sold on their grip. It's jsut down to wether I decide I need more longevity out of them, and decent dry performance. Then I'll go with the M3s again. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-06-25, 03:02 PM	#3
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I've heard nothing but great things about the M3's, and since 90% of the time, I won't be driving on snow/ice, dry performance will be a plus. Didn't Dunlop replace the M3's with D3's or something? Also, aren't M3's geared more toward a low profile setup? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 03:10 PM	#4
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	This was the story back in 2005. Not sure anyone has made significant changes since then. http://seccs.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3831 Feel free to see if TireRack has done any updated testing since then. I don't think CR has. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-06-25, 03:17 PM	#5
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	CR hasn't done anything since November of 2005 in the way of Winter Tires: Attached Images __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 03:27 PM	#6
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I don't see anything new on Tire Rack either. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=64 But if anybody hears anything new, post it up. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo. Last edited by cody; 2007-06-25 at 03:29 PM. Reason: added link

2007-06-25, 03:31 PM	#7
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Is this article from 2005? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=65 __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 03:37 PM	#9
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Also, here is a list of their articles on testing. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...let?perfType=W I'm assuming we won't see any 2007 ones until the start of the 2007 winter tire buying season. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2007-06-25, 03:55 PM	#11
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	You have to take the survey results with a stiff drink of tequila IMHO. Almost nobody drives the tires back to back and their only frame of reference is often comparing their worn out old ones to their new ones. I trust the TR test much more than the survey results. Doesn't look like they have tested the D3 yet, but I would bet they will by Nov. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-06-25, 04:08 PM	#12
bxracer69 EJ22 Real Name: Nick Langkamp Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the Road Posts: 384 Car: 2003 Mitsubishi Evo8 Class: SM Snowboarding....Because gravity is cheaper than gas	I absolutely loved my Winterforces... I put 2 full snow seasons on mine without a problem, and they were not that expensive. Here is the link for tire rack. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....ce&model=M%2BS __________________ My better is better than your best. My fast smells like french toast. www.langkampracing.com

2007-06-25, 04:13 PM	#14
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Rallycross maybe, but the sidewalls on those things are like double-strength rubberbands. I had a set on my Aerostar. Good snow tires though. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-06-25, 04:16 PM	#15
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Dude, they have snowy mtns right there on the side! __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 04:17 PM	#16
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Much like, say, Dunlop WinterSport M3s. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-06-25, 04:21 PM	#17
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I don't see it: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/BigPic...inter+Sport+M3 __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 04:25 PM	#18
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Under the word DUNLOP, right after the M+S designation. All "winter" tires have it. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-06-25, 04:32 PM	#19
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Well sure, but I want my snow capped mtns built into the tread... __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-06-25, 05:30 PM	#20
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Okay, you got me there. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-06-26, 06:37 AM	#21
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	This is the tire that is going on my stock rims in a week or so. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=V $89 bucks

2007-06-26, 07:13 AM	#22
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	I got the Nitto NT-SN1 tires before this last winter (which wasn't much of a test) but they seemed to handle pretty well when it actually did snow.

2007-06-26, 09:01 PM	#24
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Bridgestone REVO1 on closeout at TireRack. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

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