Autocross Chat 2009 - Page 14 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

MikeK · 2009-09-19, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

At least I didn't hit the wall like Cort did in his Exige.

The pit wall?

Dean · 2009-09-19, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

The pit wall?

No the one on the far side of the HP course. Between Turn 6A and 5B. Closer to 6A.

MattR · 2009-09-19, 05:15 PM

yeah it was ugly. Too bad about that.

van · 2009-09-19, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Van spent some time in the dirt and I don't think returned. Van? I think his new paint job sucked him in...

Yeah! I went to four auto parts shops tonight before i finally found a place that had 2 3/4 id hose in stock. I cut myself a piece about 3/8" longer and I think I'm good to go tomorrow. That was my best off yet but it was due to a mechanical failure, not my driving.......I do feel sorry about the dirt/gravel facial I gave Kevin.

MPREZIV · 2009-09-19, 05:40 PM

Jim Gandy told me today that I need to either charge for lessons, or stop beating up the locals and do some regional/national tours!

I can't believe how fast my car and I were today! IIRC, 87.063 clean. It felt GREAT!

k-dogg39 · 2009-09-19, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by van

Yeah! I went to four auto parts shops tonight before i finally found a place that had 2 3/4 id hose in stock. I cut myself a piece about 3/8" longer and I think I'm good to go tomorrow. That was my best off yet but it was due to a mechanical failure, not my driving.......I do feel sorry about the dirt/gravel facial I gave Kevin.

You got it a lot worse than I did. I think you probably scared the shit out of those corner workers though.

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Jim Gandy told me today that I need to either charge for lessons, or stop beating up the locals and do some regional/national tours!

I can't believe how fast my car and I were today! IIRC, 87.063 clean. It felt GREAT!

Ya, you and Matt were really fast today. I wish I could have gotten a clean run, but pretty sure I still pulled out the win.

Sucks for Court, hopefully it is not too bad.

van · 2009-09-19, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Jim Gandy told me today that I need to either charge for lessons, or stop beating up the locals and do some regional/national tours!

I can't believe how fast my car and I were today! IIRC, 87.063 clean. It felt GREAT!

Nobody likes a showoff.
Would Cody's wheel bearing issue have anything to do with his brake pedal going to the floor? Maybe rubbing on the caliper overheating the pads?

MPREZIV · 2009-09-19, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by van

Nobody likes a showoff.
Would Cody's wheel bearing issue have anything to do with his brake pedal going to the floor? Maybe rubbing on the caliper overheating the pads?

I wasn't bragging, just proud is all!

Likely a combination of grease in the abs sensor freaking out the controller, the offset rotor giving strange piston stroke, and overheat with the rubbing you mentioned all caused his brake pedal to go to shit. It's good it was found when it was, and didn't turn into an even bigger issue.

Dean · 2009-09-19, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Jim Gandy told me today that I need to either charge for lessons, or stop beating up the locals and do some regional/national tours!

I can't believe how fast my car and I were today! IIRC, 87.063 clean. It felt GREAT!

He came over at the end of the day and asked what was up with you and your car. I said it is a very well setup car with a very good and getting better, driver. It will be interesting to see where PAX comes out. I'm pretty sure you got me, but it is going to be close with some others. My 92.875 in the THS Mazda 3 felt pretty fast. I beat Jim in his TES Miata by over a second raw, so don't take him too seriously.

He did call you one of my protegees. Not sure I can take that much credit, but it was kind of cool.

And I drove Kevin's car home, and I think he needs to soften his dampers. They really launch you off of bumps, so they are probably over damped.

Course for tomorrow is reverse with a few changes. We did not move up the hill.

Kevin M · 2009-09-19, 06:04 PM

Probably it was from massive pad knockback as the rotor was deflecting. Rotor deflects, pushes some fluid back in the reservoir, and MC piston runs out of volume before reseating the pads on the right rear. This happened to me when I was losing a bearing in the red wagon last season. (The gouges are still in the brake rotor from rubbing the caliper bracket)

Kevin M · 2009-09-19, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

He came over at the end of the day and asked what was up with you and your car. I said it is a very well setup car with a very good and getting better, driver. It will be interesting to see where PAX comes out. I'm pretty sure you got me, but it is going to be close with some others. My 92.875 in the THS Mazda 3 felt pretty fast. I beat Jim in his TES Miata by over a second raw, so don't take him too seriously.

He did call you one of my protegees. Not sure I can take that much credit, but it was kind of cool.

And I drove Kevin's car home, and I think he needs to soften his dampers. They really launch you off of bumps, so they are probably over damped.

Course for tomorrow is reverse with a few changes. We did not move up the hill.

I wouldn't be surprised. It's at 50% on all 8 adjustments right now, probably need to drop to something like 30% bump, 40% rebound. Once I look up which end is which and which way to turn the knob is soft...

Dean · 2009-09-19, 06:08 PM

As a person who blew a wheel bearing at the track, they start making a lot of noise and fail shortly thereafter taking the rotor and maybe spindle and axle with them.

If your front wheels ever really making a roaring noise, shut it down and save your rotors, axle, and possibly your spindle. Calipers are probably OK, but pads are likely destroyed as well.

Now Cody really needs that set of yellow pads.

van · 2009-09-19, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

I wasn't bragging, just proud is all!

Just giving you a hard time. You kick my butt everytime(and most everyone else too). I'm coming for you though!

it might take 13 years or so but I'm gonna do it!

Dean · 2009-09-19, 06:14 PM

Oh, and I think Kevin is suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning after driving his car, so we may have to start talking slower and buy him a padded room/suit.

I could not find a good combination of window and sun roof position that completely eliminated it. Drove with my head tilted toward the open window. Good thing no cops saw me looking like a falling down drunk trying to stay awake.

Kevin M · 2009-09-19, 08:54 PM

Sunroof open, windows up works pretty well. But I suppose this week I should finally crawl under there and fix the donut gasket flange, I'm sure that's where it's coming from.

MattR · 2009-09-19, 09:18 PM

I don't know, Cory may be right at the top of PAX on Saturday...I don;t exactly know how the karts did, so who knows.
Pax Times
Cory- 71.72
Matt- 72.02
Dean- 72.6

cody · 2009-09-19, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin M

Probably it was from massive pad knockback as the rotor was deflecting. Rotor deflects, pushes some fluid back in the reservoir, and MC piston runs out of volume before reseating the pads on the right rear. This happened to me when I was losing a bearing in the red wagon last season. (The gouges are still in the brake rotor from rubbing the caliper bracket)

This is exactly what I was thinking. I tried to limp it home but it was scarry to drive. Thank God I have a buddy so close to the track.

Sucks it let go in so far away from Nissan. Now I have to let some strangers work on my car. *shudder* My roadside assistance only covers up to 8 miles so I'm taking it to this place called Auto Doc's Complete Car Care a couple miles from it's current location. Any suggestions appreciated.

Dean · 2009-09-20, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

This is exactly what I was thinking. I tried to limp it home but it was scarry to drive. Thank God I have a buddy so close to the track.

Sucks it let go in so far away from Nissan. Now I have to let some strangers work on my car. *shudder* My roadside assistance only covers up to 8 miles so I'm taking it to this place called Auto Doc's Complete Car Care a couple miles from it's current location. Any suggestions appreciated.

There is also Pat Housel Auto repair right there in Fernley as well.

Might talk to him...

dknv · 2009-09-20, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR

I don't know, Cory may be right at the top of PAX on Saturday...I don;t exactly know how the karts did, so who knows.
Pax Times
Cory- 71.72
Matt- 72.02
Dean- 72.6

Excellent!

I was doing timeslips in the afternoon,and I swear, Cory and Matt were crazy-fast!

(Dean,first time in the Mazda3?)

MattR · 2009-09-20, 04:55 PM

It was an honor to be called "Crazy" by a national champ!

MattR · 2009-09-20, 05:33 PM

Here's video of my final run, an 81.2 if I recall.

YouTube- Sept20,2009 Reno SCCA @ RFR Run 6

MattR · 2009-09-20, 05:57 PM

Here's Saturday Round 10. The course that killed everyone...Very painful.

YouTube- Reno SCCA Solo 10 @ RFR (Saturday)

Dean · 2009-09-20, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR

Here's video of my final run, an 81.2 if I recall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDUH-OMjrUo

More cowbell! I mean, more volume. I can't tell when you lift/brake easily. Were you having to lift/brake for the 2 offset gates at 1B?

I realize I had way less power, but if I got all the way right, that was an easy no lift gate all the way to the the 3 cone slalom in 1C.

I also found taking the optional slalom between 3 & 4 left was quicker. Did you try it both ways? Again, lower power on the 3 made the shorter distance better I think???

k-dogg39 · 2009-09-20, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR

Here's video of my final run, an 81.2 if I recall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDUH-OMjrUo

Wow. I saw lots of areas where I could have carried more speed. Nice run!

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Originally Posted by Dean

I also found taking the optional slalom between 3 & 4 left was quicker. Did you try it both ways? Again, lower power on the 3 made the shorter distance better I think???

I wasn't sure if that was optional, there was that pointer cone at the beginning, so I never tried going to the left.

MattR · 2009-09-20, 06:16 PM

Yeah Dean, I have to lift at 1 B or I was in the dirt. As far as the turn 4 slalom, I tried it both ways, I could carry much more speed into the right hander (turn 4) if I started right. The Hero camera has poopy volume, normal washes out in my car, and lo is pretty quiet. You'll have to turn your volume up. I may just lay some aggressive electronic music over it to really bother you.

2009-09-19, 05:15 PM	#328
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	yeah it was ugly. Too bad about that. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-09-19, 05:40 PM	#330
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Jim Gandy told me today that I need to either charge for lessons, or stop beating up the locals and do some regional/national tours! I can't believe how fast my car and I were today! IIRC, 87.063 clean. It felt GREAT! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-09-19, 06:04 PM	#335
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Probably it was from massive pad knockback as the rotor was deflecting. Rotor deflects, pushes some fluid back in the reservoir, and MC piston runs out of volume before reseating the pads on the right rear. This happened to me when I was losing a bearing in the red wagon last season. (The gouges are still in the brake rotor from rubbing the caliper bracket) __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-09-19, 06:08 PM	#337
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	As a person who blew a wheel bearing at the track, they start making a lot of noise and fail shortly thereafter taking the rotor and maybe spindle and axle with them. If your front wheels ever really making a roaring noise, shut it down and save your rotors, axle, and possibly your spindle. Calipers are probably OK, but pads are likely destroyed as well. Now Cody really needs that set of yellow pads. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2009-09-19 at 06:14 PM.

2009-09-19, 06:14 PM	#339
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Oh, and I think Kevin is suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning after driving his car, so we may have to start talking slower and buy him a padded room/suit. I could not find a good combination of window and sun roof position that completely eliminated it. Drove with my head tilted toward the open window. Good thing no cops saw me looking like a falling down drunk trying to stay awake. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-09-19, 08:54 PM	#340
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Sunroof open, windows up works pretty well. But I suppose this week I should finally crawl under there and fix the donut gasket flange, I'm sure that's where it's coming from. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-09-19, 09:18 PM	#341
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I don't know, Cory may be right at the top of PAX on Saturday...I don;t exactly know how the karts did, so who knows. Pax Times Cory- 71.72 Matt- 72.02 Dean- 72.6 __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-09-20, 04:55 PM	#345
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	It was an honor to be called "Crazy" by a national champ! __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-09-20, 06:16 PM	#350
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Yeah Dean, I have to lift at 1 B or I was in the dirt. As far as the turn 4 slalom, I tried it both ways, I could carry much more speed into the right hander (turn 4) if I started right. The Hero camera has poopy volume, normal washes out in my car, and lo is pretty quiet. You'll have to turn your volume up. I may just lay some aggressive electronic music over it to really bother you. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

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