NEW VF48 need Tuner - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nevada Mike · 2010-02-01, 05:40 PM

I am obviously new so be gentle>

I have a 2005 Forester and a boat load of new parts going on in the next week or so and I am planning on running the Cobb VF39 map. Is that safe and where can I get tuned on a 4 wheel dyno??

Grimmspeed PnP STi exhaust manifolds
STI uppipe
VF48
STi TMIC
Cobb Catted Down
STI midpipe and back

Can I safely run the VF39 map??

Thanks in advance!!

sybir · 2010-02-01, 05:51 PM

Closest 4-wheel dyno is Paul at DBTuned in Roseville. He's done work for a number of guys on the board.

knucklesplitter · 2010-02-01, 05:51 PM

VF39 is an okay base map, but I bet the boost would be off with the VF48 and also maybe ported stock header.

Nearest AWD Dyno is in Sac. - DBTuned. In the bay area GST Motorsports is a good option.

knucklesplitter · 2010-02-01, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevada Mike

I am obviously new so be gentle>

I have a 2005 Forester and a boat load of new parts going on in the next week or so and I am planning on running the Cobb VF39 map. Is that safe and where can I get tuned on a 4 wheel dyno??

Grimmspeed PnP STi exhaust manifolds
STI uppipe
VF48
STi TMIC
Cobb Catted Down
STI midpipe and back

Can I safely run the VF39 map??

Thanks in advance!!

Kinda weird to have the GS port/polish exhaust manifolds without their cross-over pipe. They open them up to match the gaskets, and that creates quite a step into/out of the stock cross-pipe, doesn't it?

Nevada Mike · 2010-02-01, 06:23 PM

They do the same to the X pipe as well. Its all 9 ports.

knucklesplitter · 2010-02-02, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevada Mike

They do the same to the X pipe as well. Its all 9 ports.

So, you got the whole ported header w/crosspipe from them? It's pretty sweet, and the best sounding (stock sound).

WRX06TR · 2010-02-02, 08:49 AM

Don't run that base map for long!!! Cobb specifically warns against running anything other than a VF39 on the VF39 map...they even said running a VF43 on that map was a risky idea.

Dean · 2010-02-02, 09:16 AM

You can always run the fuel economy map which restricts boost as well as being gentle on the gas until you get to the tuner.

Nevada Mike · 2010-02-04, 05:24 AM

I am going to run the Cobb E-Tune until I can get over the hill. Cobb says it is within "5-10%" of a dyno tune. They admit it is not as good but should be safe to run. Does anyone have any experience with this?

renosubby · 2010-02-04, 10:51 AM

yea its not bad... its just like the OTS maps on the AP!

Nevada Mike · 2010-02-26, 08:16 AM

OK got my car tuned at DB tuned. It went well and the car had no problems. I think I had a 275 Torque and 254 HP but thats the problem. I really don't know. I can't say that I would go back to DBtuned for anything. The owner, Paul is very opiniated but thats fine I just sat and listened. He liked what I did but spent a great deal of time telling me about the "kids" that bring in their cars that are not ready to be tuned etc. He told me that he can make more money working on cars rather than tuning and made me feel like I was a bother. I had just spent months searching for a car, thousands on parts and hours upon hours installing them. Paul also backed my car into the curb getting into the Dyno bay hitting the muffler and my factory mud flaps. It is very tight getting into his dyno because it is on the side of the building. I heard the crunch of the car going onto the curb and the drag of it coming off from inside the shop so obviously he was aware that he did it. The windows were down so he could listen to the car. He said nothing and since I needed the tune I just sat there with my mouth shut.

I do not have any dyno charts or other information. He said he would send them to me. Well... he has not. He does not return my calls and he has not sent the charts by email like he said. I have sent several requests with no answer at all. I don't know my PSI, air fuel, HP or Torque curves etc. Really I have no idea. I feel that he was competent and my car will not blow up but I will be taking it to Fine Line imports for a retune.

I thought I would share since he is the the closest tuner to us.

cody · 2010-02-26, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the review.

renosubby · 2010-02-26, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevada Mike

OK got my car tuned at DB tuned. It went well and the car had no problems. I think I had a 275 Torque and 254 HP but thats the problem. I really don't know. I can't say that I would go back to DBtuned for anything. The owner, Paul is very opiniated but thats fine I just sat and listened. He liked what I did but spent a great deal of time telling me about the "kids" that bring in their cars that are not ready to be tuned etc. The bank that screwed him so he deos not pay the bills so he is getting sued and more. He told me that he can make more money working on cars rather than tuning.

I do not have any dyno charts or other information. He said he would send them to me. Well... he has not. He does not return my calls and he has not sent the charts by email like he said. I have sent several requests with no answer at all. I don't know my PSI, air fuel, HP or Torque curves etc. Really I have no idea. I feel that he was competent and my car will not blow up but I will be taking it to Fine Line imports for a retune.

I thought I would share since he is the the closest tuner to us.

Sent PM. I would be happy to log car and tell you afr, boost and do a road dyno on the car.

Nevada Mike · 2010-02-26, 07:41 PM

Sent you a PM also. That would be great. Thanks!

GusGus91 · 2010-02-26, 10:43 PM

Mike do you need a boost gauge?

Nevada Mike · 2010-02-28, 07:15 AM

I do not have a boost gauge and wanted to run without one. If I add one I want it to go where it it not easily seen. With modest mods and no plans on racing is it required? Thanks

Dean · 2010-02-28, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevada Mike

I do not have a boost gauge and wanted to run without one. If I add one I want it to go where it it not easily seen. With modest mods and no plans on racing is it required? Thanks

Required, no, recommended, yes.

cody · 2010-02-28, 10:22 AM

I try to stay below 5 PSI in 5th gear since it's not great for the car to sustain much higher. A boost gauge is obviously instrumental for that. The other benefit is that you can ID over/under boost and other issues that cause something like slow spool with one.

Paul@dbtuned · 2010-03-01, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevada Mike

OK got my car tuned at DB tuned. It went well and the car had no problems. I think I had a 275 Torque and 254 HP but thats the problem. I really don't know. I can't say that I would go back to DBtuned for anything. The owner, Paul is very opiniated but thats fine I just sat and listened. He liked what I did but spent a great deal of time telling me about the "kids" that bring in their cars that are not ready to be tuned etc. The bank that screwed him so he deos not pay the bills so he is getting sued and more. He told me that he can make more money working on cars rather than tuning.

I do not have any dyno charts or other information. He said he would send them to me. Well... he has not. He does not return my calls and he has not sent the charts by email like he said. I have sent several requests with no answer at all. I don't know my PSI, air fuel, HP or Torque curves etc. Really I have no idea. I feel that he was competent and my car will not blow up but I will be taking it to Fine Line imports for a retune.

I thought I would share since he is the the closest tuner to us.

PM sent.

DaveWRX · 2010-03-01, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevada Mike

OK got my car tuned at DB tuned. It went well and the car had no problems. I think I had a 275 Torque and 254 HP but thats the problem. I really don't know. I can't say that I would go back to DBtuned for anything. The owner, Paul is very opiniated but thats fine I just sat and listened. He liked what I did but spent a great deal of time telling me about the "kids" that bring in their cars that are not ready to be tuned etc. The bank that screwed him so he deos not pay the bills so he is getting sued and more. He told me that he can make more money working on cars rather than tuning.

I do not have any dyno charts or other information. He said he would send them to me. Well... he has not. He does not return my calls and he has not sent the charts by email like he said. I have sent several requests with no answer at all. I don't know my PSI, air fuel, HP or Torque curves etc. Really I have no idea. I feel that he was competent and my car will not blow up but I will be taking it to Fine Line imports for a retune.

I thought I would share since he is the the closest tuner to us.

I've never heard bad reviews about Paul, ive had multiple friends get their cars tuned there and have never heard of any problems, all stated Paul was a great guy...

Paul@dbtuned · 2010-03-02, 08:23 AM

A simple misunderstanding and miscommunication on my behalf, with a little bit of laziness as well.

renosubby · 2010-03-02, 02:02 PM

I logged the car today and sent logs to paul to discuss...

cody · 2010-03-02, 02:05 PM

opcorn:

renosubby · 2010-03-02, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

opcorn:

we will see how it goes.

100_Percent_Juice · 2010-03-02, 02:52 PM

2010-02-01, 05:40 PM	#1
Nevada Mike n00b Real Name: Mike Cowan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Car: 2005 FXT Class: None	NEW VF48 need Tuner I am obviously new so be gentle> I have a 2005 Forester and a boat load of new parts going on in the next week or so and I am planning on running the Cobb VF39 map. Is that safe and where can I get tuned on a 4 wheel dyno?? Grimmspeed PnP STi exhaust manifolds STI uppipe VF48 STi TMIC Cobb Catted Down STI midpipe and back Can I safely run the VF39 map?? Thanks in advance!!

2010-02-01, 05:51 PM	#2
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Closest 4-wheel dyno is Paul at DBTuned in Roseville. He's done work for a number of guys on the board. __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2010-02-02, 09:16 AM	#8
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	You can always run the fuel economy map which restricts boost as well as being gentle on the gas until you get to the tuner. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2010-02-04, 10:51 AM	#10
renosubby RIP Real Name: Cory Schander Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 163 Car: 2006 STI Class: SM Never dwell on the past, It fucks your future!	yea its not bad... its just like the OTS maps on the AP! __________________ *MAYHEM TUNING* 2006 CGM STI 570WHP 539WTQ 10.6 At 136MPH Sacramento

2010-02-26, 08:16 AM	#11
Nevada Mike n00b Real Name: Mike Cowan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Car: 2005 FXT Class: None	DBtuned Sucks OK got my car tuned at DB tuned. It went well and the car had no problems. I think I had a 275 Torque and 254 HP but thats the problem. I really don't know. I can't say that I would go back to DBtuned for anything. The owner, Paul is very opiniated but thats fine I just sat and listened. He liked what I did but spent a great deal of time telling me about the "kids" that bring in their cars that are not ready to be tuned etc. He told me that he can make more money working on cars rather than tuning and made me feel like I was a bother. I had just spent months searching for a car, thousands on parts and hours upon hours installing them. Paul also backed my car into the curb getting into the Dyno bay hitting the muffler and my factory mud flaps. It is very tight getting into his dyno because it is on the side of the building. I heard the crunch of the car going onto the curb and the drag of it coming off from inside the shop so obviously he was aware that he did it. The windows were down so he could listen to the car. He said nothing and since I needed the tune I just sat there with my mouth shut. I do not have any dyno charts or other information. He said he would send them to me. Well... he has not. He does not return my calls and he has not sent the charts by email like he said. I have sent several requests with no answer at all. I don't know my PSI, air fuel, HP or Torque curves etc. Really I have no idea. I feel that he was competent and my car will not blow up but I will be taking it to Fine Line imports for a retune. I thought I would share since he is the the closest tuner to us. Last edited by Nevada Mike; 2010-03-02 at 05:43 AM.

2010-02-01, 05:51 PM	#3
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	VF39 is an okay base map, but I bet the boost would be off with the VF48 and also maybe ported stock header. Nearest AWD Dyno is in Sac. - DBTuned. In the bay area GST Motorsports is a good option.

2010-02-01, 06:23 PM	#5
Nevada Mike n00b Real Name: Mike Cowan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Car: 2005 FXT Class: None	They do the same to the X pipe as well. Its all 9 ports.

2010-02-02, 08:49 AM	#7
WRX06TR EJ251 Real Name: Nick P Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Reno Posts: 881 Car: 2005 STi Class: MadtyteTunerBro! Back to the studio!	Don't run that base map for long!!! Cobb specifically warns against running anything other than a VF39 on the VF39 map...they even said running a VF43 on that map was a risky idea.

2010-02-04, 05:24 AM	#9
Nevada Mike n00b Real Name: Mike Cowan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Car: 2005 FXT Class: None	I am going to run the Cobb E-Tune until I can get over the hill. Cobb says it is within "5-10%" of a dyno tune. They admit it is not as good but should be safe to run. Does anyone have any experience with this?

2010-02-26, 11:07 AM	#12
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Thanks for the review. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-02-26, 07:41 PM	#14
Nevada Mike n00b Real Name: Mike Cowan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Car: 2005 FXT Class: None	Sent you a PM also. That would be great. Thanks!

2010-02-26, 10:43 PM	#15
GusGus91 EJ205 Real Name: Austin Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Reno, NV Posts: 1,406 Car: 2006 WRB WRX TR, 2008 LR STI Class: Too classy Dont sweat the petty... Pet the sweaty.	Mike do you need a boost gauge? __________________ "Like" me on facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/AP-Cre...2196449?v=wall _______________ 06 WRX w/ 6MT UNDER CONSTRUCTION 09 chicane yellow 370z

2010-02-28, 07:15 AM	#16
Nevada Mike n00b Real Name: Mike Cowan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 16 Car: 2005 FXT Class: None	I do not have a boost gauge and wanted to run without one. If I add one I want it to go where it it not easily seen. With modest mods and no plans on racing is it required? Thanks

2010-02-28, 10:22 AM	#18
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I try to stay below 5 PSI in 5th gear since it's not great for the car to sustain much higher. A boost gauge is obviously instrumental for that. The other benefit is that you can ID over/under boost and other issues that cause something like slow spool with one. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-03-02, 08:23 AM	#21
Paul@dbtuned EJ18 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 35	A simple misunderstanding and miscommunication on my behalf, with a little bit of laziness as well. __________________ I make cars go fast & got the tickets to prove it. http://www.seccs.org/forums/attachme...tid=2999&stc=1

2010-03-02, 02:02 PM	#22
renosubby RIP Real Name: Cory Schander Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 163 Car: 2006 STI Class: SM Never dwell on the past, It fucks your future!	I logged the car today and sent logs to paul to discuss... __________________ *MAYHEM TUNING* 2006 CGM STI 570WHP 539WTQ 10.6 At 136MPH Sacramento Last edited by renosubby; 2010-03-02 at 07:30 PM.

2010-03-02, 02:05 PM	#23
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	opcorn: __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-03-02, 02:52 PM	#25
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	__________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

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