Will changes to the FIA WRC rules effect the prod cars? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

dustinr · 2004-10-08, 06:16 PM

I heard that the FIA just made a ton of changes to WRC rules for next year. First all engines have to be transversely mounted...ALL ENGINES! And they have to be naturally aspirated and they still have to be 2 litre max. Think this will effect the production STi's and Evo's ?

MattR · 2004-10-08, 06:25 PM

Actually, we have a bit of time before the changes go into effect...2006 I think...It was touched on a bit here..
http://www.seccs.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2071

Nick Koan · 2004-10-08, 08:43 PM

Its a lot of drama right now, actually. The rules aren't finalized, and it looks like a comprimise solution might show up. Almost every person (except the head of Ford) has expressed anywhere from mild to major discontent with the Super2000 rules.

THAWA · 2004-10-09, 03:11 PM

Like someone else said, ford is going to turn this into nascar.

Nick Koan · 2004-10-13, 04:02 PM

http://www.worldrallynews.com/artman...rticle_715.php

Looks like Super2000 might have just been the FIA scaring manufacturers. The FIA just voted today to keep a detuned version of WRCar regulations rather then switch to S2000 (only voted in principal, the regulations still need to be worked out)

Quote:

The FIA World Council has approved the principle of detuning World Rally Cars for the 2006 World Championship. Details will not be resolved until December, but the intention is to reduce costs and attract new manufacturers.

The likelihood is that much of the high technology that has sent car costs soaring will be banned, including hydraulically controlled differentials and the most sophisticated electronics.

Other changes include a reduction in stage distance from a maximum of 400 to 360 kilometres and a ban on flex-service.

A further rule change allows crews which retire on legs one or two to restart subsequent legs. The crew will be penalised five minutes on each stage missed, this to be added to the fastest time of the driver's priority group.

For the first time in its history, the FIA has granted rallying precedence over Formula 1: the calendar outlined two months ago will stand, while the latest changes to the Grand Prix schedule have been rejected.

Very good news. Very very good news.

sybir · 2004-10-13, 04:07 PM

Hell yeah!

MattR · 2004-10-13, 05:06 PM

Sweetness..I'm happy they pulled their heads from their asses...

Kevin M · 2004-10-13, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

A further rule change allows crews which retire on legs one or two to restart subsequent legs. The crew will be penalised five minutes on each stage missed, this to be added to the fastest time of the driver's priority group.

Wait, so theoretically a driver could actually win a rally despite crashing out early? I wouldn't even consider it except for Petter making up what, 3:45 of his 5:45 in penalties earlier this year?

sperry · 2004-10-13, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

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Originally Posted by nKoan

A further rule change allows crews which retire on legs one or two to restart subsequent legs. The crew will be penalised five minutes on each stage missed, this to be added to the fastest time of the driver's priority group.

Wait, so theoretically a driver could actually win a rally despite crashing out early? I wouldn't even consider it except for Petter making up what, 3:45 of his 5:45 in penalties earlier this year?

Theoretically yes... but it's pretty improbable. The good news is that manufactureres will be able to use the rest of the rally for testing, and sponsors will get a bit more coverage.

2004-10-08, 06:16 PM	#1
dustinr EJ18 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 99 Car: '04 Porsche Turbo X50, '05 STi, '05 Evo MR, '02 Ducati 998, '02 Ducati MH900e love the quote "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"	Will changes to the FIA WRC rules effect the prod cars? I heard that the FIA just made a ton of changes to WRC rules for next year. First all engines have to be transversely mounted...ALL ENGINES! And they have to be naturally aspirated and they still have to be 2 litre max. Think this will effect the production STi's and Evo's ?

2004-10-08, 06:25 PM	#2
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Actually, we have a bit of time before the changes go into effect...2006 I think...It was touched on a bit here.. http://www.seccs.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2071 __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-10-08, 08:43 PM	#3
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Its a lot of drama right now, actually. The rules aren't finalized, and it looks like a comprimise solution might show up. Almost every person (except the head of Ford) has expressed anywhere from mild to major discontent with the Super2000 rules. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-10-09, 03:11 PM	#4
THAWA EJ18 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 45	Like someone else said, ford is going to turn this into nascar. __________________ 1990 Rio Red Legacy LS AWD Auto

2004-10-13, 04:07 PM	#6
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Hell yeah! __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2004-10-13, 05:06 PM	#7
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Sweetness..I'm happy they pulled their heads from their asses... __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

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