They done tried for a speed record in Elko? Interesting.

[left footed whooten]

Apparently this car company closed down some of I 93 to chase Bugatti's production top speed record:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...16&postcount=1

...and this is them just missing it. 230mph at 50% throttle:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...2&postcount=17

Hopefully they will try again. Hopefully they will not use the blue/white color combo again.

[Dean]

The thing about the Bugatti is that at least to some extent, it looks like a really well styled street car, not a race car which is what that looks like. I dare you to drive that over a speed bump.

And unless I am mistaken, the Bugatti record was accomplished in an "as driven on the street" including license plates with the exception of having turned the key in the special no spoiler high speed switch.

Building a 250+ MPH race car while a feat of engineering doesn't impress me as much as the Bugatti's 250 MPH street car.

Oh, and the Bugatti was two tone first as well.

[Bob Danger]

Don't Forget that VW said that they LIMITED the Veyron to 254mph.

[ShawnS]

Here is James May doing top speed in the Bugatti.
http://www.glumbert.com/media/bugatti

[Dean]

Originally Posted by ShawnS

Here is James May doing top speed in the Bugatti.
http://www.glumbert.com/media/bugatti

WTLW
http://seccs.org/forums/showthread.p...3496#post93496

[ShawnS]

Touché.....

[sperry]

Originally Posted by Dean

The thing about the Bugatti is that at least to some extent, it looks like a really well styled street car, not a race car which is what that looks like. I dare you to drive that over a speed bump.

And unless I am mistaken, the Bugatti record was accomplished in an "as driven on the street" including license plates with the exception of having turned the key in the special no spoiler high speed switch.

Building a 250+ MPH race car while a feat of engineering doesn't impress me as much as the Bugatti's 250 MPH street car.

Oh, and the Bugatti was two tone first as well.

The Ultimate Aero TT remains remarkably drivable, retaining excellent idle characteristics despite its intention to run for long periods of time at redline. In addition, the Ultimate Aero TT has all the amenities of a luxury sedan. the supple leather/suede interior is highlighted by custom Recaro seats, a 10 speaker premium system, DVD/navigation/backup camera, and a cab-controlled lift that raises the front an extra 4 inches to navigate road hazards.

[Dean]

A race car with a stereo and manual front suspension lift is still a race car.

Are you saying that visually, the TT looks like a street car?

[Nick Koan]

I think it looks like a street car. At least as much as a the Veyron and various late model Lamborghini do.

[Dean]

A:
or B:

IMHO street cars don't have front splitters and side skirts, but maybe it's just me...

[Nick Koan]

What a completely silly thing to argue about.

What about Lambo and Saleen street cars that come with splitters and front air dams?

[Dean]

I don't think I was arguing, was I? I am just saying I am more impressed with what Bugatti accomplished in their form factor than what SSC is trying to with their's. I would expect the SSC to be faster if it has the HP given their shapes.

[tysonK]

Pfft, I think the TT looks more like a street car. The veyron is much more design forward, and something less likely to see on the street. I agree with nick on the late model lambo and what not.

[wrxkidid]

16 cylinders with 4 turbos. who wants to fab up a quadrouple turbocharger kit for a wrx with me .

i say the veyron looks like a jaguar that is really into itself and what it looks like. im gonna agree with the lambo statement but say lambos look more like racecars than street cars so i gotta agree with dean on the veyron looking more streetable.

[sperry]

Um, guys, this is a street car:



Last time I checked, it holds the single lap record at the Nurburgring for street vehicles because it's street legal in Europe and the UK.

Now Dean is implying that the Bugatti is more streetable than the Aero TT. First, *no* car is "streetable" at 250 mph. At that speed... hell at any speed over 100 mph... you have to be driving like you're in a racecar because your life depends on it. I don't care how nice the stereo is, how many cupholders there are, whether or not the car looks like a racecar or a street car... whatever. All that matter at those speeds are how stable the car is.

So, as far as "streetable" is concerned, you have to ask yourself how comfortable the car is at sane speeds. Since no-one in this thread has ever driven either of these cars, we're just going to have to go with the reviews. And the review of the Aero TT is that it is indeed streetable. It's got a nice interior, decent road manners, and can even get over that speed bump that Dean mentioned (by use of a suspension lift... the same way the Enzo gets over speed bumps, and *gasp* the Veyron).

As far as engineering's concerned, I too am more impressed by the Veyron's engineering... it's got a crazy complicated motor, AWD, watercooled brakes, etc. It's an engineering masterpiece. It's also an exercise in engineering masturbation. Making 1000hp is not all that impossible these days, and a quad-turbo 16cyl motor is easily not anywhere near the right way to do it, unless you're just trying to make an exotic car. Likewise, going 250 mph isn't that hard either, just make the car light and slap wings on it for downforce. Sure the constraints of "street legal" make it harder, but really the "right" answer to the problem is to take a traditional lightweight sports car with (OMG!) splitters and side skirts and slap a big old turbo V8 in there.

Racecars look the way they look for a reason... to engineer a street car to do something that racecars do all the time (go fast) a smart engineer would borrow as much proven technology as they can from the racing world. IMO, the Veyron is a poor design because it reinvents the wheel... instead of mating a compact lightweight high-power motor to a light car, they dropped a MASSIVE motor into a 4000lb car and then engineered a ton of new crap to keep the car driveable at speeds that would be shrugged off by another car built correctly. Frankly, the car is successful in spite of itself!

I guess my point is, the Veryon won't sit at the top of the production-car speed chart for long, because it's actually a very poor design for the goal of going fast. Granted it's a marvel of a vehicle, but it's really only marvelous because it's so over-engineered. There are already one-off street cars that can beat it, all it takes is some company to build a special edition "production" car based on established designs that whoops its ass... like this Aero TT.

[cody]

I hate wheel spin in 6th gear at 200+mph...so annoying.

[JonnydaJibba]

Originally Posted by cody

I hate wheel spin in 6th gear at 200+mph...so annoying.