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rubberbiscuitt · 2006-05-26, 12:03 PM

i won't be able to race, but my kid and i might be going through hawthorne in time to help set up. we're going to vegas for the weekend.

Dean · 2006-05-26, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R.

Is the Holiday Lodge a decent place? I just got off the phone with them- $45/ night.

Room + bed + shower = decent... Can't be picky at this late date I don't think.

Nick Koan · 2006-05-26, 01:09 PM

is early registration going to be at the El Capitan?

A1337STI · 2006-05-26, 02:16 PM

guess i should call up the holiday lodge then
so btw, the postings on IWSTI is correct, the 2005 STI comes stock with postive front camber, and -1.5 Rear . The guys at Lilly's told me the front was set to +.25

all they could get out of her was -0.6 (has to be a lot better then running around with positive up front though) they took longer then they said but oh wells.

Kevin M · 2006-05-26, 02:26 PM

Alex, I've got floor space available if you want to save a buck or two.

bruspeed · 2006-05-26, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Alex, I've got floor space available if you want to save a buck or two.

Which means......

room cost= $71

Alex's cost= $69

Kevin's cost= $2

Alex's saving = +- $2

A1337STI · 2006-05-26, 02:53 PM

oh only $2 for floor space ? well Crapples i'de better hop on that

lol
i'm hoping if its floor only like $30 ish , or if they can roll in a cot then 1/2

(call me selfish but i'm not gonna pay half price and sleep on the floor 2 nights in a row while someone else pays the same and gets a bed) lol

Bob Danger · 2006-05-26, 04:30 PM

Hope you guys kick some Vegas ass this weekend.

A1337STI · 2006-05-26, 04:39 PM

Hell Yeah

guess i should look up directions at some point before i leave huh? maybe i should even print numbers now just in case i'm suppost to have those.. hmff

A1337STI · 2006-05-26, 05:10 PM

my cell num is getting there

Joeyy · 2006-05-27, 10:26 AM

Hope one or two of you will post how Saturday went. I'm sitting up here in Truckee watching the snow fall and should be down with you all. Thanks for any updated, this is killing me.

Nick Koan · 2006-05-28, 09:29 PM

We wonzors

Kevin M · 2006-05-28, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

We wonzors

Werd. Total domination. They didn't win a class except for uncontested, and we beat them even WITHOUT our street tire handicap numbers- straight average raw time by class. Also, they didn't win a class except a couple uncontested ones. Ren-own3d.

Nick Koan · 2006-05-28, 10:17 PM

Some pics from run group 2 on Saturday

doubleurx · 2006-05-28, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

Some pics from run group 2 on Saturday

Holy crap! Was Dean skewered by a cone?!

Alas we will miss him he who's favorite color was red!

No..........................Silver, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

MattR · 2006-05-29, 07:24 AM

That was an event for the ages...wow what a battle Scott and I had...Everyone drove really well, I had a great time this weekend.

Joeyy · 2006-05-29, 08:23 AM

More pictures, more pictures, more pictures..... How was the course? Fast or tight or both?

SlickNick112 · 2006-05-29, 09:49 AM

Show what the course was like. Map it out. What were the times like?

Nick Koan · 2006-05-29, 11:03 AM

There were some left turns, some right turns. A few slaloms, etc...

It may sound wierd, but it was high speed, but tight as well. It was the fastest (mph wise) I've ever been at a solo event, but I was still significantly off the pace and it wasn't due to an HP deficit.

Dean · 2006-05-29, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickNick112

Show what the course was like. Map it out. What were the times like?

Drag start slightly diagonal left.
Right 2 stay right at exit.
Light brake into Left 2 opens into off camber at exit
Left 3
Right 3
Left 3 through wall
Right 3 through wall
Left 3, wall at exit.
....

cody · 2006-05-29, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Werd. Total domination. They didn't win a class except for uncontested, and we beat them even WITHOUT our street tire handicap numbers- straight average raw time by class. Also, they didn't win a class except a couple uncontested ones. Ren-own3d.

Sweet!

Kevin M · 2006-05-29, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Sweet!

Especially the part where I repeated myself in a single post.

Damn I must have been tired last night.

sperry · 2006-05-29, 04:13 PM

I'll agree with Matt, it was an excellent event competition-wise. Though most the competition was amongst us Reno folk, and not so much with Vegas... I think it has a lot to do with our normal events being of a higher average speed than Vegas' normal events. Our drivers simply have more experience/exposure to the higher speed type events.

Which brings me to the shitty part of the weekend. For the second time in 3 years, a driver lost control of their vehicle and slid off course into a course worker. Chalk it up to a "freak" incident, or to driver inexperience (the driver was a young kid from Vegas driving a WRX), but once again there was an ambulance needed at a Solo event... IMO, Hawthorne should be removed from the schedule. If we wish to continue the N/S Challenge we either need a new location that isn't runway based, or we need to split locations... one year hold it at Stead, the next at Vegas' "home" location.

As far as the guy hit, I don't specifically remember meeting him, but he's from Reno, name's Ed, drives a white supercharged Miata. He got hit be the sliding car's left rear door in his back, which whipped his head into the C-pilar above the door. The window was smashed out, the door had a big dimple in it, and the C-pillar was banged up. Ed suffered a deep gash to his head, a concussion, and several chipped vertebrae. He's going to be laid up for a while healing, but he should make a full recovery. The real shitty part is that he starts a new job on Tuesday, which means he currently has no health insurance. I'm not sure what a care-flight from Hawthorne to Washoe Med, CT scans, pain meds, etc, cost but I can guarentee this poor kid will be paying for it for a long while.

tysonK · 2006-05-29, 04:22 PM

Ed made it out to the after party at Bully's after the first event. I talked with him awhile about just moving here. I think he has a wife also.

That's such a terrible situation.

Dean · 2006-05-29, 04:54 PM

The site is actually plenty large enough to not use the taxiways at all, and still make a 40+ second course. My guess is that National will not approve another course that uses the taxiways.

The problem with them is they are narrow and have a significant crown.

Due to the narrow width, there is little to do but slalom to reduce speeds, and slaloms are extrmely upsetting to cars. When combined with the off-camberness of the crown they can cause small mistakes to turn into high speed course exits in fairly random directions as we have seen.

IMHO the only way to continue to use that site safely is to stop using the taxiways, which is not likely to go over well with the general membership of the two regions.

You could continue to push wokkers further off the side, but that dosn't fix the problem, and the next incident may well be a roll over that could involve the loss of limbs due to open windows or worse...

2006-05-26, 01:09 PM	#78
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	is early registration going to be at the El Capitan? __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-05-26, 02:16 PM	#79
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	guess i should call up the holiday lodge then so btw, the postings on IWSTI is correct, the 2005 STI comes stock with postive front camber, and -1.5 Rear . The guys at Lilly's told me the front was set to +.25 all they could get out of her was -0.6 (has to be a lot better then running around with positive up front though) they took longer then they said but oh wells. __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time! Last edited by A1337STI; 2006-05-26 at 02:19 PM.

2006-05-26, 02:26 PM	#80
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Alex, I've got floor space available if you want to save a buck or two. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-05-26, 02:53 PM	#82
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	oh only $2 for floor space ? well Crapples i'de better hop on that lol i'm hoping if its floor only like $30 ish , or if they can roll in a cot then 1/2 (call me selfish but i'm not gonna pay half price and sleep on the floor 2 nights in a row while someone else pays the same and gets a bed) lol __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-05-26, 04:30 PM	#83
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	Hope you guys kick some Vegas ass this weekend. __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2006-05-26, 12:03 PM	#76
rubberbiscuitt EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: south lake tahoe Posts: 234 Car: L just push the brake pedal.	i won't be able to race, but my kid and i might be going through hawthorne in time to help set up. we're going to vegas for the weekend.

2006-05-26, 04:39 PM	#84
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	Hell Yeah guess i should look up directions at some point before i leave huh? maybe i should even print numbers now just in case i'm suppost to have those.. hmff __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-05-26, 05:10 PM	#85
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	my cell num is getting there __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time! Last edited by A1337STI; 2006-05-26 at 05:18 PM.

2006-05-27, 10:26 AM	#86
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Hope one or two of you will post how Saturday went. I'm sitting up here in Truckee watching the snow fall and should be down with you all. Thanks for any updated, this is killing me.

2006-05-28, 09:29 PM	#87
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	We wonzors __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-05-28, 10:17 PM	#89
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Some pics from run group 2 on Saturday __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-05-29, 07:24 AM	#91
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	That was an event for the ages...wow what a battle Scott and I had...Everyone drove really well, I had a great time this weekend. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2006-05-29, 08:23 AM	#92
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	More pictures, more pictures, more pictures..... How was the course? Fast or tight or both?

2006-05-29, 09:49 AM	#93
SlickNick112 EJ251 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 603 Car: '06 Impreza WRX STi Class: Out of class! I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal. People know me.	Show what the course was like. Map it out. What were the times like? __________________ "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " *~Frank Sinatra*

2006-05-29, 11:03 AM	#94
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	There were some left turns, some right turns. A few slaloms, etc... It may sound wierd, but it was high speed, but tight as well. It was the fastest (mph wise) I've ever been at a solo event, but I was still significantly off the pace and it wasn't due to an HP deficit. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-05-29, 04:13 PM	#98
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I'll agree with Matt, it was an excellent event competition-wise. Though most the competition was amongst us Reno folk, and not so much with Vegas... I think it has a lot to do with our normal events being of a higher average speed than Vegas' normal events. Our drivers simply have more experience/exposure to the higher speed type events. Which brings me to the shitty part of the weekend. For the second time in 3 years, a driver lost control of their vehicle and slid off course into a course worker. Chalk it up to a "freak" incident, or to driver inexperience (the driver was a young kid from Vegas driving a WRX), but once again there was an ambulance needed at a Solo event... IMO, Hawthorne should be removed from the schedule. If we wish to continue the N/S Challenge we either need a new location that isn't runway based, or we need to split locations... one year hold it at Stead, the next at Vegas' "home" location. As far as the guy hit, I don't specifically remember meeting him, but he's from Reno, name's Ed, drives a white supercharged Miata. He got hit be the sliding car's left rear door in his back, which whipped his head into the C-pilar above the door. The window was smashed out, the door had a big dimple in it, and the C-pillar was banged up. Ed suffered a deep gash to his head, a concussion, and several chipped vertebrae. He's going to be laid up for a while healing, but he should make a full recovery. The real shitty part is that he starts a new job on Tuesday, which means he currently has no health insurance. I'm not sure what a care-flight from Hawthorne to Washoe Med, CT scans, pain meds, etc, cost but I can guarentee this poor kid will be paying for it for a long while. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-05-29, 04:22 PM	#99
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	Ed made it out to the after party at Bully's after the first event. I talked with him awhile about just moving here. I think he has a wife also. That's such a terrible situation. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2006-05-29, 04:54 PM	#100
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	The site is actually plenty large enough to not use the taxiways at all, and still make a 40+ second course. My guess is that National will not approve another course that uses the taxiways. The problem with them is they are narrow and have a significant crown. Due to the narrow width, there is little to do but slalom to reduce speeds, and slaloms are extrmely upsetting to cars. When combined with the off-camberness of the crown they can cause small mistakes to turn into high speed course exits in fairly random directions as we have seen. IMHO the only way to continue to use that site safely is to stop using the taxiways, which is not likely to go over well with the general membership of the two regions. You could continue to push wokkers further off the side, but that dosn't fix the problem, and the next incident may well be a roll over that could involve the loss of limbs due to open windows or worse... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

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