The 2013 autocross thread! - Page 5 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

sperry · 2013-06-18, 01:04 PM

Lunch time boredom!

Someone make that into a magnet. Or not. It's not like I'm going to be out to an event soon.

Kevin M · 2013-06-18, 01:06 PM

That was only the first wave. By the end of the season, there might be more magnet sticker area on most of our cars than paint showing.

sperry · 2013-06-18, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M

That was only the first wave. By the end of the season, there might be more magnet sticker area on most of our cars than paint showing.

At least, that's what your car is secretly hoping.

Kevin M · 2013-06-18, 02:07 PM

I already abandoned my paint schemes in favor of carpet bombing it with magnets.

MikeK · 2013-07-13, 07:24 PM

Round 8 results posted

MattR · 2013-07-13, 07:51 PM

Man, I coned it all away today

MikeK · 2013-07-15, 05:41 PM

Round 9 results posted.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2013-07-22, 06:00 PM

Took the WRX out to auto-x with the local Fox Valley club yesterday. Got a much better feel for the limits of the car.

Turn in is fairly good, moderate understeer through the middle of most corners, have to be patient getting on the throttle if you don't want it to turn into heavy understeer exiting. Trailbraking fairly aggressively just makes it go faster. Body pitch & roll are noticeable but not excessive & distracting. Lots of heat/pressure gain in the front tires & chalking predictably showed rolling over onto the sidewalls, could definitely use more front camber for optimal grip. No complaints about the OE tires, they seem fairly sticky & held up ok once I added some air. Brake feel is ok but not fantastic; initial bite in that first inch or so of pedal travel is lacking but improves with heat. Once the brakes are hot the pedal is firmer and it decels pretty hard, no fade noticeable after five 90sec long runs with hard use. ABS performs well, was hitting it before most corners and it just helps slow you down harder. What's slightly distracting (not necessarily bad) is that pedal feel can change depending on what you're doing with the car on entry; I think it was probably ESC intervention. I turned off ESC for a run and it feels like a different car near the limits, not necessarily for the better either (I was a second slower that run). ABS/EBD/ESC system seems well integrated and doing what it should do instead of artificially holding you back.

They also don't seem to make a big distinction between solo 1 & 2 up here; this 'autocross' was on an overgrown outdoor shifter kart track that was pretty damned fast.. lots of elevation change, off camber turns.. tons o' fun. I'm surprised they let some of the novice drivers on the track frankly, if you screwed up in the wrong place you'd end up in the fence or in a building. Safety isn't as much of a priority up here in general though I've noticed.

MattR · 2013-07-22, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

They also don't seem to make a big distinction between solo 1 & 2 up here; this 'autocross' was on an overgrown outdoor shifter kart track that was pretty damned fast.. lots of elevation change, off camber turns.. tons o' fun. I'm surprised they let some of the novice drivers on the track frankly, if you screwed up in the wrong place you'd end up in the fence or in a building. Safety isn't as much of a priority up here in general though I've noticed.

Sounds like an awesome venue, although, must not be any affiliation with SCCA...sounds like our old airport events in the desert. Pretty cool way to get to know your car though.

MikeK · 2013-08-03, 06:51 PM

Round 10 results posted

k-dogg39 · 2013-08-03, 07:49 PM

Thanks Mike. You going to make it out at all this year?

kwikside · 2013-08-05, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

Round 10 results posted

That was my 1st time out doing anything with a car, other than going to work and what not. Fun time, but damn were my times slow.

MikeK · 2013-08-06, 09:20 AM

Round 11 results posted

MikeK · 2013-08-06, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-dogg39

Thanks Mike. You going to make it out at all this year?

If we go to 14 drops I can still win PAX!

MikeK · 2013-08-06, 09:25 AM

In other news, looking over the results for the season, has "Des Toups" found the new pax cheater car? He/she showed up 4 times and won pax 3 of them

k-dogg39 · 2013-08-06, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

If we go to 14 drops I can still win PAX!

Sounds like a great plan!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

In other news, looking over the results for the season, has "Des Toups" found the new pax cheater car? He/she showed up 4 times and won pax 3 of them

It seems like the BRZ/FRS could be that new car. Plus he is a fast driver.

Congrats to the Paxmaster for locking it up again. Cheater.

I am wondering though, any reason the PAX championship shows 3 drops and the Class championship only shows 2?

MikeK · 2013-08-06, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-dogg39

I am wondering though, any reason the PAX championship shows 3 drops and the Class championship only shows 2?

You must be new at the intarwebs. Your browser is caching the old version.

k-dogg39 · 2013-08-06, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

You must be new at the intarwebs. Your browser is caching the old version.

Yup just did. Oops.

MattR · 2013-08-06, 12:49 PM

Debbie drove the FR-S on Sunday, I'd liek to hear her take on it. Dez is a great driver, but I can see that car having a ton of potential, even at this altitude.

k-dogg39 · 2013-08-06, 12:51 PM

I talked to her briefly about it, and she said she really liked driving it.

cody · 2013-08-28, 09:34 AM

I got 8th out of 90 in raw by cheating on Saturday. Fortunately for me, two in the dirt was not a DNF.

Results: http://www.empiresportscar.org/results/
In Car:

ESCA Autocross Event #6 8-24-13 - YouTube

k-dogg39 · 2013-08-28, 10:15 AM

Nice job taking the shortcut there cheater.

cody · 2013-08-28, 11:00 AM

I think it shaved about 1.5 seconds off. I had been downshifting to 1st and pivoting on my first 6 runs. Runs 7 and 8 were a lot faster with this "technique".

Downshifting to 1st is almost never faster for me.

MattR · 2013-08-28, 12:01 PM

I love the use of the dirt, well done.

sperry · 2013-08-28, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

I think it shaved about 1.5 seconds off. I had been downshifting to 1st and pivoting on my first 6 runs. Runs 7 and 8 were a lot faster with this "technique".

Downshifting to 1st is almost never faster for me.

Was it you that gave me shit for doing the same thing in GT4 years ago when we were posting our best laps?

Answer: yep.

2013-06-18, 01:04 PM	#101
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Lunch time boredom! Someone make that into a magnet. Or not. It's not like I'm going to be out to an event soon. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2013-06-18, 01:06 PM	#102
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	That was only the first wave. By the end of the season, there might be more magnet sticker area on most of our cars than paint showing. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2013-06-18, 02:07 PM	#104
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I already abandoned my paint schemes in favor of carpet bombing it with magnets. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2013-07-13, 07:51 PM	#106
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Man, I coned it all away today __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2013-07-22, 06:00 PM	#108
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Took the WRX out to auto-x with the local Fox Valley club yesterday. Got a much better feel for the limits of the car. Turn in is fairly good, moderate understeer through the middle of most corners, have to be patient getting on the throttle if you don't want it to turn into heavy understeer exiting. Trailbraking fairly aggressively just makes it go faster. Body pitch & roll are noticeable but not excessive & distracting. Lots of heat/pressure gain in the front tires & chalking predictably showed rolling over onto the sidewalls, could definitely use more front camber for optimal grip. No complaints about the OE tires, they seem fairly sticky & held up ok once I added some air. Brake feel is ok but not fantastic; initial bite in that first inch or so of pedal travel is lacking but improves with heat. Once the brakes are hot the pedal is firmer and it decels pretty hard, no fade noticeable after five 90sec long runs with hard use. ABS performs well, was hitting it before most corners and it just helps slow you down harder. What's slightly distracting (not necessarily bad) is that pedal feel can change depending on what you're doing with the car on entry; I think it was probably ESC intervention. I turned off ESC for a run and it feels like a different car near the limits, not necessarily for the better either (I was a second slower that run). ABS/EBD/ESC system seems well integrated and doing what it should do instead of artificially holding you back. They also don't seem to make a big distinction between solo 1 & 2 up here; this 'autocross' was on an overgrown outdoor shifter kart track that was pretty damned fast.. lots of elevation change, off camber turns.. tons o' fun. I'm surprised they let some of the novice drivers on the track frankly, if you screwed up in the wrong place you'd end up in the fence or in a building. Safety isn't as much of a priority up here in general though I've noticed. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2013-07-13, 07:24 PM	#105
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Round 8 results posted

2013-07-15, 05:41 PM	#107
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Round 9 results posted.

2013-08-03, 06:51 PM	#110
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Round 10 results posted

2013-08-03, 07:49 PM	#111
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	Thanks Mike. You going to make it out at all this year?

2013-08-06, 09:20 AM	#113
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Round 11 results posted

2013-08-06, 09:25 AM	#115
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	In other news, looking over the results for the season, has "Des Toups" found the new pax cheater car? He/she showed up 4 times and won pax 3 of them

2013-08-06, 12:49 PM	#119
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Debbie drove the FR-S on Sunday, I'd liek to hear her take on it. Dez is a great driver, but I can see that car having a ton of potential, even at this altitude. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2013-08-06, 12:51 PM	#120
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	I talked to her briefly about it, and she said she really liked driving it.

2013-08-28, 10:15 AM	#122
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	Nice job taking the shortcut there cheater.

2013-08-28, 11:00 AM	#123
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I think it shaved about 1.5 seconds off. I had been downshifting to 1st and pivoting on my first 6 runs. Runs 7 and 8 were a lot faster with this "technique". Downshifting to 1st is almost never faster for me. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2013-08-28, 12:01 PM	#124
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I love the use of the dirt, well done. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

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