GT4 Challenge

[cody]

Anybody else have a new PS2 with the LAN adaptor or an old one with the external LAN adaptor (I'm assuming they made one)? Racing head to head would be fun.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba

Wow got some rage that needs to be let loose Scott? I use this steering wheel

Which is why you think the rally is acceptable.

Watch a replay of a rally lap and note how often you're steering at something other than full lock, or 0. It's pretty much never. In rally you have to mash the wheel back and forth. Something you can't do on a wheel.

The replays actually look pretty rediculous... with the car's front wheels snapping from 0 to full lock instantly over and over again.

IMO, GT4 is an *excellent* game, but it seriously dropped the ball with the Rally, the total lack of opponent AI (cars never attempt to avoid a wreck, hell they don't even slow down for a stopped car, and never mind the pitting on lap 9 of 10 to lose the race manuver), and the "at the limit" physics (it's near impossible to make a FF or 4WD car oversteer controllably at the limit, only FR/MR cars).

I don't expect the GT games to be all that realistic (that's what GTR and RBR are for) but they shouldn't have elements so outlandish that they take away from the fun of driving. Having to burn up a motor in my $150 wheel trying to rally, or driving a car that pushes 90% into a corner then snap oversteers when you give it the tinyest bit of throttle (and none of the settings seem to make a difference, at least not logically) takes away from the fun and show a lack of play testing.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by cody

Anybody else have a new PS2 with the LAN adaptor or an old one with the external LAN adaptor (I'm assuming they made one)? Racing head to head would be fun.

I've got both, but my old PS2 stopped reading my GT4 disc, and decided to start rubbing the lense on the disc instead. (Which is why I picked up a new PS2.)

[cody]

Scott, you should try Rallying with my wheel. It's only got a half turn from lock to lock. I think you'd really enjoy it. It was only $30 since a connector was broken when I got it, but it pretty much kicks ass.

[cody]

Originally Posted by sperry

I've got both, but my old PS2 stopped reading my GT4 disc, and decided to start rubbing the lense on the disc instead. (Which is why I picked up a new PS2.)

So what else would we need? A switch, Ethernet cables and two TV's? You can network two computers together with just a crossover cable. Are PS2's the same?

[sperry]

Originally Posted by cody

So what else would we need? A switch, Ethernet cables and two TV's? You can network two computers together with just a crossover cable. Are PS2's the same?

I've already got a network at my house. I think there are already 3 PS2s on it.

And my wheel has a 180deg lockout mode that reduces the sensitivity of the wheel, but without the steering assist GT4 does when you're driving with the dualshock, it's still crappy.

[cody]

All the more reason to make sure I don't win...cuz I just may feel like getting my Rally on.

[bemani]

Originally Posted by sperry

Which is why you think the rally is acceptable.

Watch a replay of a rally lap and note how often you're steering at something other than full lock, or 0. It's pretty much never. In rally you have to mash the wheel back and forth. Something you can't do on a wheel.

Which is why I turn off the 900 mode when I run rally stages, its actually really fun on the 270 degree mode, but yeah, 900 degrees sucks for rally.

Not just this game, I do that for Enthusia Pro Racing too.

[doubleurx]

My GT4 wheel is not constantly lock to lock in rally mode. I love rally mode in GT 4.

Bayley and I are in.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by bemani

Which is why I turn off the 900 mode when I run rally stages, its actually really fun on the 270 degree mode, but yeah, 900 degrees sucks for rally.

Not just this game, I do that for Enthusia Pro Racing too.

Sometimes I think I shouldn't have sold my old 270 deg Logitech to nKoan. Oh and the 900 degree wheel switches to 180, not 270... so it gets super short... I constantly run outta wheel in that mode... though it is slightly better for rally.

But like I said, why waste a bunch of time w/ GT4's mediocre-at-best rally, when there are other games that are actually really fun offroad?

[bemani]

So which license test is the challenge on?

[sp00ln]

GT4 is only available for the PS2, right?

[cody]

Alright, so I can't do any of the super licenses because I only just recently got the B license...and there are a couple laps that I could do from the B License, but the cars really suck, and having a pace car is almost cheating anyway.

You guys can totally vote against this and decide on whatever you want, but here's what I'm suggesting to get the ball rolling.

First, I think we can trust eachother to just follow Jonny's suggestion here:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba

However it's done, I think we should pick one car and see who gets the best times for that track. Also 2 wheels must be touching the track at all times (excluding jumping) so that way people don't cut the tracks and such.

Basically, just don't take any shortcuts. If you can provide a video, great, but all that should be required is a snapshot from a digi or a screenshot or whatever illustrating your lap time.

To start, how about?

Car: STi Spec C
Track: Infineon Raceway

If there are no major objections (get over your fear of arcade mode Sperry ), I'll update the first post and keep it updated with the latest challenge and past winners. How's that sound?

[cody]

Or would you guys prefer the Cusco Impreza?

[bemani]

Lets do the Cusco, the Spec C is too slow

[cody]

Originally Posted by bemani

Lets do the Cusco, the Spec C is too slow

Makes sense to me. I say, let's do it.

[bemani]

I got 1'33.678 in arcade time trial on default R2 tires so far.

Sport car course right?

[cody]

Originally Posted by bemani

I got 1'33.678 in arcade time trial on default R2 tires so far.

Sport car course right?

Use whatever tires you choose. Yep, Sport car course.

[sperry]

1'29.578 on my 3rd lap... but I'm on RSS/RSS tires.

[M3n2c3]

Who here has Rallisport Challenge 2, Colin McRae 5, or Forza, and XBLive?

[sperry]

Here's my last lap for the night... 1'27.628. I'm pretty sure I can pick up about .1 in T4, and another .1 or .2 in the last sweeper before the final hairpin. I just couldn't put it all together. I'd say a "perfect" lap for me is about a 1'27.200 or thereabouts.

[cody]

131.698

[bemani]

1'28.008 on super soft tires. I'd say I am capable of another .8s, cuz that's what I keep falling behind my own shadow on.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by bemani

1'28.008 on super soft tires. I'd say I am capable of another .8s, cuz that's what I keep falling behind my own shadow on.

Ruh Roh... is that a JDM copy? I'm pretty sure there are inconsistancies between the JDM and USDM versions of the game... let's hope the car performance and track layouts aren't some of them!

[zpeed]

I'm kind of late just find out about this. I'll be playing tonight. When is the last day for this challenge.