Lightweight RWD Subaru? Toyobaru... - Page 3 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

sperry · 2009-10-08, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin M

On paper, I don't see anything that suggests it's going to blow the RX8 out of B stock, and nothing with that level of horsepower is an SS or AS contender.

I dunno... imagine an RX-8 with 300+ hp and 300+ ftlbs of torque. Assuming the Subaru version is indeed sporting the STi motor, it's basically going to be a Vette with 1000lbs less weight.

But even if we're talking about the 200hp N/A Toyota version, it's still going to have a massive advantage over the RX-8 in terms of low-end torque, thus killing the B-Stock class, IMO. If it went to AS, it'd be a huge underdog meaning you'd have to have to go straight to BSP to be competitive, assuming it's a BSP car which seems pretty likely.

Kevin M · 2009-10-08, 01:42 PM

I think the NA version makes sense as a CSP car actually. It's heavier than the current CSP winners but has mroe power and can run more tire. The turbo motor variant would probably be in AS/ASP though. Like you said, it's basically a light Corvette.

Libila · 2009-10-09, 12:14 PM

86 Fanboi Edition

sperry · 2009-10-09, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Libila

86 Fanboi Edition

Where's the street racing light-post impact damage?

Libila · 2009-10-10, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

Where's the street racing light-post impact damage?

Let me see what I can come up with in Paint.

Bob Danger · 2009-10-10, 04:07 PM

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-10, 06:12 PM

What a racist.

Libila · 2009-10-11, 10:10 AM

Hahaha! Nice one Bobby.

Nick Koan · 2009-10-11, 10:11 AM

Haha, love he JDM noob driver tag on the door too.

sperry · 2009-10-13, 10:39 AM

Look what turned up at the 'ring.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/13/t...ype-spy-shots/

Libila · 2009-10-13, 04:39 PM

Reminds me more of a 135.

Libila · 2009-10-17, 05:55 PM

The first batch of pictures are in from Tokyo...

50 more pictures can be seen here: http://jalopnik.com/5381432/toyota-f...s-mega+gallery

Nick Koan · 2009-10-27, 05:36 PM

Well, some random website I've never heard of has "confirmed" that the Subaru version will have AWD + turbo

http://www.7tune.com/confirmed-bigge...r-subaru-216a/

van · 2009-10-27, 05:41 PM

Why would the STI version be taller?

Nick Koan · 2009-10-27, 05:42 PM

For 6'4" 'mericans.

van · 2009-10-27, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan

For 6'4" 'mericans.

I thought we just got wider seats.

Kevin M · 2009-10-27, 06:41 PM

20mm is probably just from taller wheels/tires and/or more AWD-appropriate ride height.

sperry · 2009-10-27, 08:57 PM

I'm calling bs on that "confirmation". Not that I wouldn't be happy to see a turbo awd version, just that those dimensional changes don't appear to be enough to fit the motor in front of the front axle and I don't expect to see Subaru develop a whole new awd layout just for this car.

Plus a photoshoped image from that site isn't exactly "confirmation". The don't cite any real sources. At this point I'm still in believe it when I see it mode.

Kevin M · 2009-10-27, 09:16 PM

Yeah, you're right. There's no way that car can run the current Subaru AWD setup.

van · 2009-10-29, 07:09 PM

ring video

YouTube- Erlkönig: Toyota Sportwagen

van · 2010-05-26, 11:00 AM

Delayed two years

sperry · 2010-05-26, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by van

Delayed two years

Maybe so they can design AWD into the platform?

Or more likely, so they can kill the whole project slowly.

Nick Koan · 2011-08-23, 02:23 PM

Bump!

A lot of news since this thread was last bumped, but the big news is that the Subaru version finally has a name. The BRZ.

http://jalopnik.com/5833452/

Cool car broz.

Bob Danger · 2011-08-24, 06:16 PM

I've been keeping up on the toyota version, and they've done some interesting things with the EJ20. The completely recast the block, and are running direct injection. I'd like to see the changes in person.

WRXlerate · 2011-08-25, 12:26 PM

I don't know why subaru has not switched to direct injection, they are falling behind the times. I was hoping to see it when they switched the body style in '08.

2009-10-08, 01:42 PM	#52
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I think the NA version makes sense as a CSP car actually. It's heavier than the current CSP winners but has mroe power and can run more tire. The turbo motor variant would probably be in AS/ASP though. Like you said, it's basically a light Corvette. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-10-10, 04:07 PM	#56
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	__________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2009-10-10, 06:12 PM	#57
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	What a racist. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-11, 10:10 AM	#58
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	Hahaha! Nice one Bobby. Attached Images

2009-10-11, 10:11 AM	#59
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Haha, love he JDM noob driver tag on the door too. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-10-09, 12:14 PM	#53
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	86 Fanboi Edition

2009-10-13, 10:39 AM	#60
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Look what turned up at the 'ring. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/13/t...ype-spy-shots/ __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2009-10-13, 04:39 PM	#61
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	Reminds me more of a 135.

2009-10-17, 05:55 PM	#62
Libila EJ205 Real Name: Tim Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,384 Car: '94 L	The first batch of pictures are in from Tokyo... 50 more pictures can be seen here: http://jalopnik.com/5381432/toyota-f...s-mega+gallery

2009-10-27, 05:36 PM	#63
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Well, some random website I've never heard of has "confirmed" that the Subaru version will have AWD + turbo http://www.7tune.com/confirmed-bigge...r-subaru-216a/ __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-10-27, 05:41 PM	#64
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	Why would the STI version be taller?

2009-10-27, 05:42 PM	#65
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	For 6'4" 'mericans. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-10-27, 06:41 PM	#67
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	20mm is probably just from taller wheels/tires and/or more AWD-appropriate ride height. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-10-27, 08:57 PM	#68
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I'm calling bs on that "confirmation". Not that I wouldn't be happy to see a turbo awd version, just that those dimensional changes don't appear to be enough to fit the motor in front of the front axle and I don't expect to see Subaru develop a whole new awd layout just for this car. Plus a photoshoped image from that site isn't exactly "confirmation". The don't cite any real sources. At this point I'm still in believe it when I see it mode. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2009-10-27, 09:16 PM	#69
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Yeah, you're right. There's no way that car can run the current Subaru AWD setup. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2010-05-26, 11:00 AM	#71
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	Delayed two years

2011-08-23, 02:23 PM	#73
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Bump! A lot of news since this thread was last bumped, but the big news is that the Subaru version finally has a name. The BRZ. http://jalopnik.com/5833452/ Cool car broz. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-08-24, 06:16 PM	#74
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	I've been keeping up on the toyota version, and they've done some interesting things with the EJ20. The completely recast the block, and are running direct injection. I'd like to see the changes in person. __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2011-08-25, 12:26 PM	#75
WRXlerate EJ22 Real Name: John B. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind a brick wall. Posts: 471 Car: 02 Soccermom Wagon Class: "sleeper" Destroying V8 Egos 4 cylinders at a time	I don't know why subaru has not switched to direct injection, they are falling behind the times. I was hoping to see it when they switched the body style in '08. __________________ Stuff sold by the gram is always more exciting than stuff sold by the pound. JC

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