GT4 Challenge

[rallytheshytoutofwrx]

thats a fun car^^
to me that looks pretty illegal for this thread's rules, but by defenition its sound. i meant i was inside tire slightly over a rumble strip.

so whats our next task? im about to have some time to kill, and i want to win so i can make a nurburgring challenge!

[outferno]

I've been using harder tires for the rear and softer tires for the front, I seem to drive better that way. I'm not sure why.

Signed,
Charlie

[rallytheshytoutofwrx]

might promote oversteer?

it kinda sucks not being able to adjust suspension...i can't believe a lot of my friends play without ever touching the TCS, gear ratios or suspension settings...i have (had) a CSL that if i changed the camber a half degree i would notice...

[rallytheshytoutofwrx]

charlie, im posting this only to tie you in posts!

[outferno]

It does promote oversteer, but at the same time, it destroys ability to drift since the front tires will grip a lot more - it's kind of weird and destroys game physics vs real life physics. I could see having a step harder tires on the rears in real life may possibly make you do donuts all day - but this is all theoretical. Anybody done this in real life that can chime in?

Signed,
Charlie

[outferno]

Originally Posted by rallytheshytoutofwrx

charlie, im posting this only to tie you in posts!

-1

Signed,
Charlie

[cody]

We're in a bit of a quandry since Bemani was the only one to post a pic, and he won the challenge. The rules state that you cannot win your own challenge. You win, but you can't make the rules. So since Bemani beat his own challenge, the 2nd place person should make the rules. Well that would be Gary if he'd just post a pic, but he hasn't. I'd fell pretty wierd choosing the next challenge with so many people having better times than me, but if nobody posts a pic of their faster time by 9 or so this evening, I guess I'll make the next challenge.

[cody]

Originally Posted by sperry

The rule is basically "two wheels on the prepared surface at all times". So the curbs are in fair territory, as well as any paved areas adjacent to the track. And because of the two wheel rule, if you cut a curb so deep that the two inside wheels are actually on the dirt, you're lap is still legal because the two outside wheels are still on the prepared surface.

The only exception is when jumping the car. Then it's okay to leave the track, but you must still maintain at least two wheel "over" the prepared surface, even if they're not actually touching the track.

For example, check out my turn 4 in this lap: http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Car%20P...2_1-13-393.wmv

That's about as close as you can cut it.

You know, I'm going to guess that for the smallest fraction of a moment, you had 3 wheels on the grass...right before you reached the rumble strip.

[GarySheehan]

I'll see if I can get a picture up tonight.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

[cody]

Originally Posted by GarySheehan

I'll see if I can get a picture up tonight.

Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
www.teamSMR.com

Cool. I think if this happens again, we should just let the winner make a new challenge, even if they made the challenge they just won.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by cody

You know, I'm going to guess that for the smallest fraction of a moment, you had 3 wheels on the grass...right before you reached the rumble strip.

Actually, the picture is a little deceiving as far as the direction of movement of the car. Watch the external camera video I posted of the 1st 5 challenges. The picture is actually from the point where I have the least amount of contact w/ the track.

With regards to picking the challenges... I would vote that the next time the next person isn't readily obvious or available to pick the challenge, Cody should get to make the call since he started the thread. As long as he doesn't pick a rally challenge.

[cody]

Originally Posted by sperry

Actually, the picture is a little deceiving as far as the direction of movement of the car. Watch the external camera video I posted of the 1st 5 challenges. The picture is actually from the point where I have the least amount of contact w/ the track.

If you say so. I'll have to check that video. Got a link?

Originally Posted by sperry

With regards to picking the challenges... I would vote that the next time the next person isn't readily obvious or available to pick the challenge, Cody should get to make the call since he started the thread. As long as he doesn't pick a rally challenge.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by cody

If you say so. I'll have to check that video. Got a link?

As posted earlier in the thread:

http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Car%20P...CS_TT1-TT5.wmv

It's nearly 100MB in size. The particular spot is at about 1'47 into the movie. However, it's not as easy to see there as I thought it was... I was thinking of this clip from a lap that turned out not to be my best, so I never bothered to post a link to it in this thread. I had cut a lot of the curb, and because of the sliding of the car it really looks from the in-car like I cut too much, so I recorded and slowed down that footage to prove I was on the curb.

Anyway, back on challenge 2, I did review my Motegi lap from about 30 camera angles to make sure I was within the rules. I was actually pretty pissed that it was so close because cutting that corner so severly doesn't really help your times as it unsettles the car and prevents you from accelerating at full potential. I just happened to turn in a split second too soon on that lap and ended up eating a lot of dirt.

[rallytheshytoutofwrx]

hmm... i think we should freak out more about the grass issue..
charlie- i guess having sticky front tires would mess everything up. in endurance races i would sometimes put a harder compound in the rear so that the rear tires that spin a lot (depending on car) would have longer traction life that matches a softer compund front..but in real life, especially for drifting, it wouldnt work well all the time..

i got a 1.37 last time..

so do we have a new challenge anyone?

[cody]

Marty, if you have a better time than 1’37.499, post the pic and you can make the next challenge.

[bemani]

I say cody you should just pick the next track and car like what Scott suggested. Except I don't care if you choose a gravel track

[cody]

Ha, well I think you should pick. Heads or tails?

[bemani]

heads!

[cody]

Heads, you make the next challenge.

[bemani]

lol. okay, Corvette C5 Z06, Seoul reverse. Lap times should be very close.

[cody]

I'm in as soon as Southpark is over.

[bemani]

dude that's a rerun. You scared me for a second there, thought I'm missing the new episode.

[cody]

Yah, I've seen them all, but it's been a while since I've seen this one. A new Drawn Together is on next though.

[cody]

Originally Posted by sperry

As posted earlier in the thread:

http://www.seccs.org/gallery/Car%20P...CS_TT1-TT5.wmv

It's nearly 100MB in size. The particular spot is at about 1'47 into the movie. However, it's not as easy to see there as I thought it was... I was thinking of this clip from a lap that turned out not to be my best, so I never bothered to post a link to it in this thread. I had cut a lot of the curb, and because of the sliding of the car it really looks from the in-car like I cut too much, so I recorded and slowed down that footage to prove I was on the curb.

Anyway, back on challenge 2, I did review my Motegi lap from about 30 camera angles to make sure I was within the rules. I was actually pretty pissed that it was so close because cutting that corner so severly doesn't really help your times as it unsettles the car and prevents you from accelerating at full potential. I just happened to turn in a split second too soon on that lap and ended up eating a lot of dirt.

Yah, those are close calls for sure.

[cody]

Nevermind.