F1 Silly Season 2011 - Page 3 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nick Koan · 2011-02-09, 04:37 PM

Yeah, I think Ford has a good case, even though the car will never be sold to the public.

But, combine that with Ferrari's hardheadedness, this could turn out to be spectacular.

sybir · 2011-02-09, 04:41 PM

I do, however love that Ferrari naming their racing car F150 is somehow going to damage Ford's truck brand image. Huge crossover market there that's going to be all confused.

sperry · 2011-02-09, 06:47 PM

Ford won't win that.

There's no way an Italian court (last time I checked Scuderia Ferrari doesn't do any business in the US) is going to rule in favor of Ford over Ferrari for a name that has virtually no marketing crossover.

Not to mention Ferrari and Ford are probably the two best known monikers in the world... their product lines are well known even to the layperson. I'm pretty sure no one is going to get confused by the name of a one-off F1 car that will be run for 10 months this year with an American pickup truck.

Nick Koan · 2011-02-09, 07:01 PM

The case was filed in Detroit.

Which, doesn't mean much of anything for Scuderia Ferrari, until they set foot in the US (or maybe only Michigan).

Nick Koan · 2011-02-10, 07:52 AM

Aw man, this got resolved too soon.

Ferrari renamed their car the 'F150th Italia'

Read their statement here: http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/10/w...-says-ferrari/

sperry · 2011-02-11, 02:20 PM

Has HRT not yet named their second driver? They holding out for Raikkonen to return to F1?

Nick Koan · 2011-02-16, 09:45 AM

Heidfeld has been officially named as Kubica's replacement at Lotus Renault

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/16/h...lotus-renault/
http://www.f1technical.net/news/1600...7e3f5242e5a144

Also, there seems to be some growing concern about Bahrain.

sperry · 2011-02-17, 11:23 AM

The GP2 race in Bahrain got canceled due to the protests. It's not looking good for the F1 season opener, and I don't think there's time to move it elsewhere... though doing something crazy like showing up at Donnington or Magny-Course would be friggen awesome.

Nick Koan · 2011-02-17, 11:28 AM

They could swap Abu Dhabi with Bahrain on the calendar. Or I'd suggest a race in France, but it might be a little late to get an impromptu GP at Magny-Cours up and running.

sperry · 2011-02-17, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

They could swap Abu Dhabi with Bahrain on the calendar. Or I'd suggest a race in France, but it might be a little late to get an impromptu GP at Magny-Cours up and running.

I doubt Abu Dhabi would a) be willing to give up their end of season spot or b) be able to fill the stands on short notice compared to their planned event date. The only option IMO is to hold the race somewhere that's not already on the calendar, 'cause otherwise it would really hurt the income of an existing venue.

But who knows if it'd even be possible to plan a GP in such short notice at all.

MattR · 2011-02-17, 03:27 PM

Laguna Seca!

sybir · 2011-02-17, 08:34 PM

Yes, that.

Nick Koan · 2011-02-21, 08:20 AM

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/21/n...-crown-prince/

Bahrain has been canceled. No replacement race, though rumor says they may try to reschedule (not that there is really a slot).

sperry · 2011-02-21, 06:32 PM

Great, now I need to figure out how to cancel a GP from th FF1 schedule! I think I'll just have to manually delete it from the database then clear the picks table so no one loses picks. The problem is, does that mean the season starts with round 2, or are the rounds all renumbered 1-19 now?

sperry · 2011-02-22, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Great, now I need to figure out how to cancel a GP from th FF1 schedule! I think I'll just have to manually delete it from the database then clear the picks table so no one loses picks. The problem is, does that mean the season starts with round 2, or are the rounds all renumbered 1-19 now?

Sheesh. It took a lot more work than I was expecting because it required fixing the way results and drops were calculated, but I *think* I've got the FF1 site handling a canceled event now.

If anyone sees some weird shit with the scoring or picks or anything once the season gets going, let me know ASAP so I can fix it!

JoeWRX · 2011-02-22, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Aw man, this got resolved too soon.

Ferrari renamed their car the 'F150th Italia'

Read their statement here: http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/10/w...-says-ferrari/

They actually renamed it "The Ferrari F-Henry Ford is a massive peach."

Skip to 5:09 and you'll get it.

YouTube

Nick Koan · 2011-02-24, 07:57 AM

Williams released their livery finally. Retro looking. The pictures are all studio pictures, and for some reason are a little dark still. But here it is.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/gallery/41744.html

sperry · 2011-02-24, 10:11 AM

Still no name for HRT's driver #2? Are they just going to run one car this season?

Nick Koan · 2011-02-24, 10:12 AM

Oh yeah, there is still that too. They are probably too busy looking for a sponsor or three

Actually, I've read that Luizzi is in contention, and will likely get it if all goes well during the next public test.

Nick Koan · 2011-02-28, 05:57 PM

Infiniti has partnered with Red Bull Racing. Many speculated that this might mean a change in the re-branding the Renault engines as Infiniti, but that won't be happening.

Just one car company sponsoring a full on outfit like Group Lotus, Tata and Marussia are currently doing. But, in two years when this expires, this may lead to further technical contributions from Infiniti.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89675

Nick Koan · 2011-03-01, 10:08 AM

And in a move to make sperry's ff1 job more of a hassle, the FIA are talking of finding a spot for the Bahrain GP to be run (if at all) sometime this year. Early August or back-to-back with Abu Dhabi seems the most popular at the moment.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89681

Quote:

Bernie Ecclestone said "If the Crown Prince is of the opinion that his country is able to host a race we will return to Bahrain. I think the teams are sensible enough even to race in Bahrain in the summer break, and despite high temperatures, because this is the way we can support the country."

sperry · 2011-03-01, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

And in a move to make sperry's ff1 job more of a hassle, the FIA are talking of finding a spot for the Bahrain GP to be run (if at all) sometime this year. Early August or back-to-back with Abu Dhabi seems the most popular at the moment.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89681

Great.

Though I might be able to change all my event queries to sort by deadline instead of round number and move round 1 to later in the season without breaking anything... that'll be a fun one to test.

But, I have the feeling issues in Bahrain won't be resolved enough to run a race there anytime soon. I don't see how a revolution (or revolution quashing as it may be) gets wrapped up in only a month or two to the point where it's time to go back to fun and games.

Bob Danger · 2011-03-01, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Infiniti has partnered with Red Bull Racing. Many speculated that this might mean a change in the re-branding the Renault engines as Infiniti, but that won't be happening.

Just one car company sponsoring a full on outfit like Group Lotus, Tata and Marussia are currently doing. But, in two years when this expires, this may lead to further technical contributions from Infiniti.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89675

What the hell is datsun going supply to a formula 1 team? CVT transmissions? It would make pit stops interesting, they'd have to come up with some kind of quick release transmissions.

sperry · 2011-03-01, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Danger

What the hell is datsun going supply to a formula 1 team? CVT transmissions? It would make pit stops interesting, they'd have to come up with some kind of quick release transmissions.

Datsun isn't going to supply squat.

Renault owns a controlling share of Nissan. Nissan is the parent company of Infiniti. Renault puts Infiniti stickers on their F1 engines. People that don't know better buy Infiniti because they think they have something to do with F1. Renault makes more money.

It's basically a scam. Though, maybe in a few years if the economy gets better, Nissan/Infiniti might actually start up an engine program or something. They could use the engineering challenge to get some new ideas in their cars if they want to compete with Ford's renaissance.

Tahoe C5 · 2011-03-01, 01:25 PM

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2011-02-09, 04:37 PM	#51
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Yeah, I think Ford has a good case, even though the car will never be sold to the public. But, combine that with Ferrari's hardheadedness, this could turn out to be spectacular. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-09, 04:41 PM	#52
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	I do, however love that Ferrari naming their racing car F150 is somehow going to damage Ford's truck brand image. Huge crossover market there that's going to be all confused. __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2011-02-09, 06:47 PM	#53
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Ford won't win that. There's no way an Italian court (last time I checked Scuderia Ferrari doesn't do any business in the US) is going to rule in favor of Ford over Ferrari for a name that has virtually no marketing crossover. Not to mention Ferrari and Ford are probably the two best known monikers in the world... their product lines are well known even to the layperson. I'm pretty sure no one is going to get confused by the name of a one-off F1 car that will be run for 10 months this year with an American pickup truck. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-02-09, 07:01 PM	#54
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	The case was filed in Detroit. Which, doesn't mean much of anything for Scuderia Ferrari, until they set foot in the US (or maybe only Michigan). __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-10, 07:52 AM	#55
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Aw man, this got resolved too soon. Ferrari renamed their car the 'F150th Italia' Read their statement here: http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/10/w...-says-ferrari/ __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-11, 02:20 PM	#56
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Has HRT not yet named their second driver? They holding out for Raikkonen to return to F1? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-02-16, 09:45 AM	#57
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Heidfeld has been officially named as Kubica's replacement at Lotus Renault http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/16/h...lotus-renault/ http://www.f1technical.net/news/1600...7e3f5242e5a144 Also, there seems to be some growing concern about Bahrain. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-17, 11:23 AM	#58
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	The GP2 race in Bahrain got canceled due to the protests. It's not looking good for the F1 season opener, and I don't think there's time to move it elsewhere... though doing something crazy like showing up at Donnington or Magny-Course would be friggen awesome. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-02-17, 11:28 AM	#59
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	They could swap Abu Dhabi with Bahrain on the calendar. Or I'd suggest a race in France, but it might be a little late to get an impromptu GP at Magny-Cours up and running. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-17, 03:27 PM	#61
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Laguna Seca! __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2011-02-17, 08:34 PM	#62
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Yes, that. __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2011-02-21, 08:20 AM	#63
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/02/21/n...-crown-prince/ Bahrain has been canceled. No replacement race, though rumor says they may try to reschedule (not that there is really a slot). __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-21, 06:32 PM	#64
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Great, now I need to figure out how to cancel a GP from th FF1 schedule! I think I'll just have to manually delete it from the database then clear the picks table so no one loses picks. The problem is, does that mean the season starts with round 2, or are the rounds all renumbered 1-19 now? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-02-24, 07:57 AM	#67
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Williams released their livery finally. Retro looking. The pictures are all studio pictures, and for some reason are a little dark still. But here it is. http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/gallery/41744.html Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-24, 10:11 AM	#68
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Still no name for HRT's driver #2? Are they just going to run one car this season? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-02-24, 10:12 AM	#69
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Oh yeah, there is still that too. They are probably too busy looking for a sponsor or three Actually, I've read that Luizzi is in contention, and will likely get it if all goes well during the next public test. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-28, 05:57 PM	#70
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Infiniti has partnered with Red Bull Racing. Many speculated that this might mean a change in the re-branding the Renault engines as Infiniti, but that won't be happening. Just one car company sponsoring a full on outfit like Group Lotus, Tata and Marussia are currently doing. But, in two years when this expires, this may lead to further technical contributions from Infiniti. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89675 __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

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