F1 Silly Season 2011 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nick Koan · 2010-12-08, 07:49 AM

I think its time for a thread for the new season.

And things just got weird.

Group Lotus (which is the Lotus that owns the street car manufacturing division) has now entered into a title sponsorship with the Renault team. Team Lotus (the Lotus Racing team that raced in F1 last year) is of course up in arms over the name. Renault also sells engines to the current Team Lotus, though that may change now.

The deal is all sorts of weird and complicated crap. Looks like Renault has completely sold off their remaining shares of the team to Genii Capital, who will now be co-owners with Group Lotus of the old Benetton/Renault racing team. Renault will still get major branding rights for years to come.

So, it looks like we'll have Lotus Renault GP and Team Lotus Renault on the starting grid next year (well, assuming there won't be a huge legal slapfest).

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../12/11592.html
http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/12/08/r...h-group-lotus/

Car looks hot though. Black and Gold JPS style livery.

Dean · 2010-12-08, 07:57 AM

The JPS scheme is still one of the hottest IMHO. This is pretty good.

sperry · 2010-12-08, 04:30 PM

Holy hell that's an evil looking car!

But I thought the 2010 Lotus guys lost the rights completely to the Lotus name for 2011? This is entirely too confusing. It must be F1, only in F1 would two teams want the same name and then both use it, thus totally ruining the benefits of a recognizable name.

Nick Koan · 2010-12-10, 08:00 AM

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88645

The team orders ban has been removed for next season, though the FIA claims they can still punish if the orders damage the sport in any way.

MattR · 2010-12-10, 09:33 AM

I want to try to use team orders during auto-x next year...hmmm..

I personally don't ahve a problem with team orders. Mostly due to the fact that enforcement of the policy is a joke and has been wildly inconsistent. F1 is a team sport, so no issue IMO.

IheartSTI · 2010-12-10, 10:17 AM

I wonder how many teams will be running kers this season? I am glad they lifted the ban on team orders. As long as the order is not to wreck other competitors i am cool with it.

Nick Koan · 2010-12-10, 10:21 AM

I think I remember reading that Williams was going to use KERS next year. Not sure who else will.

MikeK · 2010-12-10, 11:37 AM

Wasn't kers supposed to be compulsory in 2011? I thought I remembered one of the commentators saying that at some point.

Nick Koan · 2011-01-07, 12:35 AM

Karthikeyan has a seat once again, thanks to HRT

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/01/07/k...n-at-hispania/

sperry · 2011-01-12, 10:38 AM

Finally... F1 feed will be in HD!

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...sion-coverage/

Nick Koan · 2011-01-25, 09:38 AM

The Group Lotus v. Team Lotus debacle went to court yesterday. The judge threw out a summary judgment application filed by Group Lotus, and set a court date for March 21st to start the trial.

That's after Bahrain, so both teams will at least start the year with the Lotus name.

And, of course, both sides are spinning yesterday's court hearing as a win for their side.

http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/01/24/t...re-successful/
http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/01/25/g...h-the-outcome/

Quote:

The increasing level of tension between the parties will make for interesting times in testing and at the first race in Bahrain, where the Lotus-Renault of Team Lotus will compete against the Lotus-sponsored Renault of Lotus Renault GP. Or something like that…

Nick Koan · 2011-01-28, 08:08 AM

Ferrari has unveiled their 2011 car, the Ferrari F150 (yes really)

Article:
http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ory/39070.html

More pictures:
http://www.f1technical.net/gallery/v/Ferrari/F150/

Movie:
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/videos/70...-in-maranello/

Nick Koan · 2011-01-28, 09:01 AM

Top google image search result for ferrari f150

Kevin M · 2011-01-28, 09:06 AM

I bet it buffed out.

Nick Koan · 2011-01-30, 09:54 PM

The new Team Lotus T128

Few more pictures: http://www.f1technical.net/news/15884

Nick Koan · 2011-01-30, 09:56 PM

And Mercedes has released one teaser render of their new car.

The W02

Nick Koan · 2011-01-31, 07:39 AM

Lotus Renault has unveiled the R31

http://www.f1technical.net/news/15886

Nick Koan · 2011-01-31, 07:41 AM

Sauber C30

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...1/1/11685.html

sperry · 2011-01-31, 09:21 AM

You know it's a pretty field when the Ferrari is the ugliest car out there!

Nick Koan · 2011-01-31, 10:32 AM

Yeah, all the new cars are really very nice looking. Even the Sauber, which might be the plainest looking of them all, still looks very good. Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Williams and Mercedes all have their official unveiling tomorrow.

sybir · 2011-01-31, 01:31 PM

I like that the best liveries are on the slowest cars. Will make it much easier to catch every detail

sperry · 2011-01-31, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sybir

I like that the best liveries are on the slowest cars. Will make it much easier to catch every detail

Exactly.

A Ferrari is mostly just a red blur, so it doesn't matter how good it looks parked.

Bob Danger · 2011-01-31, 08:07 PM

I'm looking forward to the Team Lotus and Group Lotus/Renault battle. I hope Kovalainen can get the T128 into fighting form.

Nick Koan · 2011-02-01, 12:19 AM

The RB7 was announced this morning.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89185

Nothing too crazy. Livery looks more or less the same, and all the new bits for the new years regs seem to be in place.

Nick Koan · 2011-02-01, 12:23 AM

And the STR6. The engine cover doesn't have the same sharp angle of the RB7.

2010-12-08, 07:49 AM	#1
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	F1 Silly Season 2011 I think its time for a thread for the new season. And things just got weird. Group Lotus (which is the Lotus that owns the street car manufacturing division) has now entered into a title sponsorship with the Renault team. Team Lotus (the Lotus Racing team that raced in F1 last year) is of course up in arms over the name. Renault also sells engines to the current Team Lotus, though that may change now. The deal is all sorts of weird and complicated crap. Looks like Renault has completely sold off their remaining shares of the team to Genii Capital, who will now be co-owners with Group Lotus of the old Benetton/Renault racing team. Renault will still get major branding rights for years to come. So, it looks like we'll have Lotus Renault GP and Team Lotus Renault on the starting grid next year (well, assuming there won't be a huge legal slapfest). http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../12/11592.html http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/12/08/r...h-group-lotus/ Car looks hot though. Black and Gold JPS style livery. Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2010-12-08 at 10:44 AM.

2010-12-08, 07:57 AM	#2
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	The JPS scheme is still one of the hottest IMHO. This is pretty good. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2010-12-08, 04:30 PM	#3
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Holy hell that's an evil looking car! But I thought the 2010 Lotus guys lost the rights completely to the Lotus name for 2011? This is entirely too confusing. It must be F1, only in F1 would two teams want the same name and then both use it, thus totally ruining the benefits of a recognizable name. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2010-12-10, 08:00 AM	#4
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88645 The team orders ban has been removed for next season, though the FIA claims they can still punish if the orders damage the sport in any way. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2010-12-10 at 08:02 AM.

2010-12-10, 09:33 AM	#5
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I want to try to use team orders during auto-x next year...hmmm.. I personally don't ahve a problem with team orders. Mostly due to the fact that enforcement of the policy is a joke and has been wildly inconsistent. F1 is a team sport, so no issue IMO. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2010-12-10, 10:17 AM	#6
IheartSTI EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno soon.... Posts: 473 Car: 05 sti and 08 honda fit have fun	I wonder how many teams will be running kers this season? I am glad they lifted the ban on team orders. As long as the order is not to wreck other competitors i am cool with it. __________________ live one day at a time

2010-12-10, 10:21 AM	#7
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I think I remember reading that Williams was going to use KERS next year. Not sure who else will. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2010-12-10, 11:37 AM	#8
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Wasn't kers supposed to be compulsory in 2011? I thought I remembered one of the commentators saying that at some point.

2011-01-07, 12:35 AM	#9
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Karthikeyan has a seat once again, thanks to HRT http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/01/07/k...n-at-hispania/ __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-12, 10:38 AM	#10
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Finally... F1 feed will be in HD! http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...sion-coverage/ __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-01-28, 08:08 AM	#12
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Ferrari has unveiled their 2011 car, the Ferrari F150 (yes really) Article: http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ory/39070.html More pictures: http://www.f1technical.net/gallery/v/Ferrari/F150/ Movie: http://www.gpupdate.net/en/videos/70...-in-maranello/ Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-28, 09:01 AM	#13
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Top google image search result for ferrari f150 Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-28, 09:06 AM	#14
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I bet it buffed out. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2011-01-30, 09:54 PM	#15
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	The new Team Lotus T128 Few more pictures: http://www.f1technical.net/news/15884 Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-30, 09:56 PM	#16
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And Mercedes has released one teaser render of their new car. The W02 Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-31, 07:39 AM	#17
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Lotus Renault has unveiled the R31 http://www.f1technical.net/news/15886 Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-31, 07:41 AM	#18
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Sauber C30 http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...1/1/11685.html Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-31, 09:21 AM	#19
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	You know it's a pretty field when the Ferrari is the ugliest car out there! __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2011-01-31, 10:32 AM	#20
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Yeah, all the new cars are really very nice looking. Even the Sauber, which might be the plainest looking of them all, still looks very good. Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Williams and Mercedes all have their official unveiling tomorrow. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-01-31, 01:31 PM	#21
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	I like that the best liveries are on the slowest cars. Will make it much easier to catch every detail __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2011-01-31, 08:07 PM	#23
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	I'm looking forward to the Team Lotus and Group Lotus/Renault battle. I hope Kovalainen can get the T128 into fighting form. __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2011-02-01, 12:19 AM	#24
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	The RB7 was announced this morning. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89185 Nothing too crazy. Livery looks more or less the same, and all the new bits for the new years regs seem to be in place. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2011-02-01, 12:23 AM	#25
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And the STR6. The engine cover doesn't have the same sharp angle of the RB7. Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

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