BUSTED!!!!

[MPREZIV]

Originally Posted by cody

I like everything about your idea except the no taxes thing. These people will need to put their kids in school, drive on the street to their job, utilize police and fire, and generally enjoy the "fruits". Why shouldn't they pay some taxes?

S'what I was thinking.

[ShawnS]

They already pay a sales tax.

[cody]

Sales tax is regressive, but why shouldn't they pay the same income tax that citizens who make their wage pay?

[kidatari]

Hilarous!

I think they should come back in a month or two and re-check the places that they shut down. That should make for good comedy.

[100_Percent_Juice]

...and when they come back they should just start firing bean bags into the crowd.

[knucklesplitter]

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba

Maybe we should do a hostile takeover of the Mexican gov't and make it work for the people instead of being corrupt. Not quite sure how that would work though...

Can we start with the US Gov't before getting to the Mexican one?

[JonnydaJibba]

Good idea. A bunch of people who are just trying to make a life for themselves is probably on the bottom of the list of shit we need to get done 'round this country.

[100_Percent_Juice]

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

Can we start with the US Gov't before getting to the Mexican one?

Now thats just the kind of attitude thats gonna get your ass deported back to mexico!

[sperry]

Originally Posted by cody

I like everything about your idea except the no taxes thing. These people will need to put their kids in school, drive on the street to their job, utilize police and fire, and generally enjoy the "fruits". Why shouldn't they pay some taxes?

'Cause we'd be paying them the equivalent of slave labor wages. Is it right to pay someone half minimum wage, then take 15% of that away? They would be well below the poverty level, so if you want to apply tax laws to them, they would in fact receive welfare, not pay taxes.

The idea would be to allow them to do what they're already doing, but legally. They're already getting paid illegally low wages, and are not paying taxes, which helps the economy. The rest of us who are benefiting from their willingness to work for so cheap can take up the tab for the social services they use... we're already doing it today, and it's not so bad, is it?

If you want to figure out a way to reduce wasted taxpayer money, you're barking up the wrong tree. How about we stop spending $100B/year on wars first. For the amount we've spent on Iraq, we could give each undocumented worker in the US $65,000. We literally spend *half* of the US taxpayers money on the military in this country, and that *doesn't* include the additional $100B/year we spend on Iraq. Then there's the huge pig Social Security is... and how much worse it will be as the baby-boomers retire. There's plenty of bloated government programs to save money on without trying to prevent the 12M illegals in the US from educating their children, or denying them basic healthcare.

[cody]

I guess that's cool if they are getting paid a lower min. wage...it's not like there'd be much revenue from them anyway. I have a feeling that most Republicans would hate that they wouldn't be paying taxes though, even if the GOP's are still enjoying the low prices at the supermarket that result from the low cost of labor. And many Dems would cry about Human Rights. Sometimes people can't see the big picture.

[100_Percent_Juice]

I say they get paid higher then normal wage but then all of them are forced to have a gambling problem which makes them payback most of their wages to nevada.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

I say they get paid higher then normal wage but then all of them are forced to have a gambling problem which makes them payback most of their wages to nevada.

I'm not sure about places like McDonalds... but in the agriculture industry (where 1/4 of the workers are illegals) they get paid below minimum wage.

[AtomicLabMonkey]

Originally Posted by sperry

If you want to figure out a way to reduce wasted taxpayer money, you're barking up the wrong tree. How about we stop spending $100B/year on wars first. For the amount we've spent on Iraq, we could give each undocumented worker in the US $65,000. We literally spend *half* of the US taxpayers money on the military in this country, and that *doesn't* include the additional $100B/year we spend on Iraq.

If anyone wants a little perspective about the amount of money we have spent fighting in & "reconstructing" Iraq, I read it's currently somewhere around $450billion. The annual budget for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, one of the two big nuclear weapons labs in this country, is about $1.6billion. You do the math. The money we've burned in Iraq alone (let alone all our other military deployments) could have built & operated several premiere new national research labs for DECADES. Think about the kind of energy research that could have been done at those facilities.

[tysonK]

^You can't put a price on freedom!

[sperry]

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

If anyone wants a little perspective about the amount of money we have spent fighting in & "reconstructing" Iraq, I read it's currently somewhere around $450billion. The annual budget for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, one of the two big nuclear weapons labs in this country, is about $1.6billion. You do the math. The money we've burned in Iraq alone (let alone all our other military deployments) could have built & operated several premiere new national research labs for DECADES. Think about the kind of energy research that could have been done at those facilities.

I like looking at it this way: the war in Iraq since 2003 has cost every man, woman, and child in America approximately $1,500 each. And then I get all pissed off.

[GC8.Love]

Originally Posted by MPREZIV

And my GF just told me she thinks they got Super Burrito on Plumb too...

Damn't.

[Nick Koan]

Immigration reform isn't important until it affects my ability to get a burrito.

[GC8.Love]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Immigration reform isn't important until it affects my ability to get a burrito.

+1!


I was kidding, though.

[JonnydaJibba]

They let 28 people go because they had families.

[dknv]

Wow, missed this while I was out of town. Maybe this has happened in Reno before, but I can't remember a targeted raid.

While I feel bad for those who were affected, I don't fault the INS or ICE or whatever they are called these days.

For one thing, plenty of immigrants come over to the U.S. legally; by allowing or overlooking others who are taking advantage of the system illegally, what message does that send to those who made (or plan to make) the effort? And if it's ok for those who are illegally working here to break that law, then how much thought or concern might there be about breaking other laws?

[Kevin M]

Except that it's nearly impossible to come to the US from Mexico legally. It costs more and takes longer, by far, than coming from any other country in the world, including the Middle East.

[wrxkidid]

Good news. Super Burrito is 100% open. I went there yesterday

[zpeed]

I apply a green card for my brother and he have to wait 12 years to do it right. Next time I will fly him to other side and let him run across the border.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by zpeed

I apply a green card for my brother and he have to wait 12 years to do it right. Next time I will fly him to other side and let him run across the border.

12 years!?! Is it faster to get him in on a work visa or something? 12 years seems outlandish, especially for someone that's got family here already!

[Kevin M]

That's pretty standard, and it's why I no longer mind illegals from Mexico very much, because I can't in good conscience say that they should do it the legal way, because it's basically impossible.