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knucklesplitter 2007-03-15 08:10 AM

The Powder Man in Sparks
 
I got a bunch of stuff powder coated at the Powder Man this week. The shop and office are not the cleanest most organized places in the world, but he did a great job and turned the stuff around quickly. Also his price and turn-around time were less than half of the other three places I checked. I doubt you could get a better price anywhere. Phone number is 775-359-2480, and he's on Marietta Way in Sparks just off Glendale.

Here's some more info:

http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...n.775-359-2480

zpeed 2007-03-15 08:25 AM

2nd that, I use him long time a go to powder coated my gokart frame and rims. Good price.

knucklesplitter 2007-03-15 08:34 AM

Oh yeah, forgot to thank chrscott_01 for the recommendation.

If anybody needs something in semi-flat black or primer gray (compatible with any top-coat paint) let me know, and I can throw it in with the batches that I will be doing there. The price will be very very cheap. He did a couple of my Hood Vent frames for less than $5 each including prep and masking the studs. I could barely buy the spray paint I'd need for that.

markcjr 2007-04-10 11:50 AM

rims
 
Have you gone yet? I'd like to do my rims black if possible.

Mark

wrxkidid 2007-04-10 09:02 PM

+1 id be in if you havent already gone for some primer wheels.

knucklesplitter 2007-04-12 08:02 AM

I will be doing another batch in about 2 weeks. I'm not sure how we'd swing getting the wheels in there, but we could try. The black I use is not completely flat - it's 20% gloss.

markcjr 2007-04-12 09:00 AM

ok, that would be great. If I know a day or two in advance, I'll arrange to have me wheels ready.

Mark

Any idea of price for 4 16" 98 rs wheels? They are the gold that came on there, but have some chips etc.

Thanks

knucklesplitter 2007-04-12 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markcjr (Post 95251)
ok, that would be great. If I know a day or two in advance, I'll arrange to have me wheels ready.

Mark

Any idea of price for 4 16" 98 rs wheels? They are the gold that came on there, but have some chips etc.

Thanks

No idea. I have never painted a wheel in my life. I don't know if they have to be stripped first, sand blasted, filled, or what? If they have to be stripped I can tell you from experience that stripping powder coating sucks, and Powder Man doesn't do it. I doubt it though. Call him and find out what the off-the street price is. I don't know if he'd cut me a deal, since one set of wheels is more powder coating than I will do in months (with the small stuff I do).

sperry 2007-04-12 10:41 AM

I've got a set of FN01RC's that have that stupid "hyper black" finish that's more like a candy coating than paint/powdercoat. When you heat the wheels up to 500 deg, it peels. :(

I was thinking the next time the tires on there are dead I'd strip the coating and get them powdercoated 20% gloss white. :cool: Not sure if that fits in w/ anyone else's plans...

wrxkidid 2007-04-12 10:58 PM

wait now that i think of it i thought you couldnt powdercoat aluminum wheels. how glossy is 20% gloss because i would rather do that if it is noticably shiny instead of primer and then painting them myself.

knucklesplitter 2007-04-13 08:01 AM

You can surely powdercoat aluminum wheels. I just don't know what kind of prep they need.

20%gloss would be called a semi-flat (or maybe satin) black - close to the typical black you see on car trim pieces.

Regular powder coating is cured at 400*F, so I do not know if it can withstand 500*F

sperry 2007-04-13 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 95315)
You can surely powdercoat aluminum wheels. I just don't know what kind of prep they need.

20%gloss would be called a semi-flat (or maybe satin) black - close to the typical black you see on car trim pieces.

Regular powder coating is cured at 400*F, so I do not know if it can withstand 500*F

I made up the 500 deg number. All I know is that my brakes get wicked hot at the track, and my wheels are noticing it.

Kevin M 2007-04-13 09:02 AM

It's forged/semi-forged wheels you're not supposed topowdercoat. Cast aluminum is fine.

Nick Koan 2007-04-13 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxkidid (Post 95305)
wait now that i think of it i thought you couldnt powdercoat aluminum wheels. how glossy is 20% gloss because i would rather do that if it is noticably shiny instead of primer and then painting them myself.

I believe these were powdercoated at 20% gloss (not by the Powder Man though).



tysonK 2007-04-13 09:20 AM

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

eh?

knucklesplitter 2007-04-13 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS (Post 95341)
It's forged/semi-forged wheels you're not supposed topowdercoat.

Why is that? I'm pretty sure the forged STI wheels are clear powder coated.

Kevin M 2007-04-13 09:34 AM

It has nothing to do with the surface and everything to do with 500 degree heat ruining the temper fo the metal.

knucklesplitter 2007-04-13 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS (Post 95365)
It has nothing to do with the surface and everything to do with 500 degree heat ruining the temper fo the metal.

Hmmm... I 'm pretty skeptical about that. The annealing temp. for aluminum is over 600*F and powder coating is </=400*F. The T6 tempering/aging of aluminum is done in the 350-400*F range I think, so one could argue that might help to have an extra hour or so at 400*F.


So how did BBS powder coat my forged wheels?

Kevin M 2007-04-13 09:45 AM

I do not know that they are powdercoated. I do know that I would not risk weakening wheels I inted to put under significant stress without a materials engineer specifically telling me that it's okay. You may be right about it being okay, and you may not. I err on the side of caution in this case is all.

sperry 2007-04-13 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter (Post 95368)
Hmmm... I 'm pretty skeptical about that. The annealing temp. for aluminum is over 600*F and powder coating is </=400*F. The T6 tempering/aging of aluminum is done in the 350-400*F range I think, so one could argue that might help to have an extra hour or so at 400*F.


So how did BBS powder coat my forged wheels?

Hell, I'm just wondering how forged races wheels survive brake temperatures.

Kevin M 2007-04-13 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonK (Post 95352)

Linky no worky for me. :(

Nick Koan 2007-04-13 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS (Post 95375)
Linky no worky for me. :(

Then click it better.

It links to a hand held powder coater for $120.

sperry 2007-04-13 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS (Post 95375)
Linky no worky for me. :(

It's a powdercoating sprayer for about $120. All you need now is a $20,000 industrial sized oven w/ hangers in it for 4 wheels!

tysonK 2007-04-13 10:07 AM

I designed that link to not work for Kevin, perfect.

Kevin M 2007-04-13 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nKoan (Post 95376)
Then click it better.

I have improved my clicking techniques apparently. :lol:


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