The Powder Man in Sparks - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

knucklesplitter · 2007-03-15, 08:10 AM

I got a bunch of stuff powder coated at the Powder Man this week. The shop and office are not the cleanest most organized places in the world, but he did a great job and turned the stuff around quickly. Also his price and turn-around time were less than half of the other three places I checked. I doubt you could get a better price anywhere. Phone number is 775-359-2480, and he's on Marietta Way in Sparks just off Glendale.

Here's some more info:

http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...n.775-359-2480

zpeed · 2007-03-15, 08:25 AM

2nd that, I use him long time a go to powder coated my gokart frame and rims. Good price.

knucklesplitter · 2007-03-15, 08:34 AM

Oh yeah, forgot to thank chrscott_01 for the recommendation.

If anybody needs something in semi-flat black or primer gray (compatible with any top-coat paint) let me know, and I can throw it in with the batches that I will be doing there. The price will be very very cheap. He did a couple of my Hood Vent frames for less than $5 each including prep and masking the studs. I could barely buy the spray paint I'd need for that.

markcjr · 2007-04-10, 11:50 AM

Have you gone yet? I'd like to do my rims black if possible.

Mark

wrxkidid · 2007-04-10, 09:02 PM

+1 id be in if you havent already gone for some primer wheels.

knucklesplitter · 2007-04-12, 08:02 AM

I will be doing another batch in about 2 weeks. I'm not sure how we'd swing getting the wheels in there, but we could try. The black I use is not completely flat - it's 20% gloss.

markcjr · 2007-04-12, 09:00 AM

ok, that would be great. If I know a day or two in advance, I'll arrange to have me wheels ready.

Mark

Any idea of price for 4 16" 98 rs wheels? They are the gold that came on there, but have some chips etc.

Thanks

knucklesplitter · 2007-04-12, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markcjr

ok, that would be great. If I know a day or two in advance, I'll arrange to have me wheels ready.

Mark

Any idea of price for 4 16" 98 rs wheels? They are the gold that came on there, but have some chips etc.

Thanks

No idea. I have never painted a wheel in my life. I don't know if they have to be stripped first, sand blasted, filled, or what? If they have to be stripped I can tell you from experience that stripping powder coating sucks, and Powder Man doesn't do it. I doubt it though. Call him and find out what the off-the street price is. I don't know if he'd cut me a deal, since one set of wheels is more powder coating than I will do in months (with the small stuff I do).

sperry · 2007-04-12, 10:41 AM

I've got a set of FN01RC's that have that stupid "hyper black" finish that's more like a candy coating than paint/powdercoat. When you heat the wheels up to 500 deg, it peels.

I was thinking the next time the tires on there are dead I'd strip the coating and get them powdercoated 20% gloss white.

Not sure if that fits in w/ anyone else's plans...

wrxkidid · 2007-04-12, 10:58 PM

wait now that i think of it i thought you couldnt powdercoat aluminum wheels. how glossy is 20% gloss because i would rather do that if it is noticably shiny instead of primer and then painting them myself.

knucklesplitter · 2007-04-13, 08:01 AM

You can surely powdercoat aluminum wheels. I just don't know what kind of prep they need.

20%gloss would be called a semi-flat (or maybe satin) black - close to the typical black you see on car trim pieces.

Regular powder coating is cured at 400*F, so I do not know if it can withstand 500*F

sperry · 2007-04-13, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

You can surely powdercoat aluminum wheels. I just don't know what kind of prep they need.

20%gloss would be called a semi-flat (or maybe satin) black - close to the typical black you see on car trim pieces.

Regular powder coating is cured at 400*F, so I do not know if it can withstand 500*F

I made up the 500 deg number. All I know is that my brakes get wicked hot at the track, and my wheels are noticing it.

Kevin M · 2007-04-13, 09:02 AM

It's forged/semi-forged wheels you're not supposed topowdercoat. Cast aluminum is fine.

Nick Koan · 2007-04-13, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxkidid

wait now that i think of it i thought you couldnt powdercoat aluminum wheels. how glossy is 20% gloss because i would rather do that if it is noticably shiny instead of primer and then painting them myself.

I believe these were powdercoated at 20% gloss (not by the Powder Man though).

tysonK · 2007-04-13, 09:20 AM

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

eh?

knucklesplitter · 2007-04-13, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

It's forged/semi-forged wheels you're not supposed topowdercoat.

Why is that? I'm pretty sure the forged STI wheels are clear powder coated.

Kevin M · 2007-04-13, 09:34 AM

It has nothing to do with the surface and everything to do with 500 degree heat ruining the temper fo the metal.

knucklesplitter · 2007-04-13, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

It has nothing to do with the surface and everything to do with 500 degree heat ruining the temper fo the metal.

Hmmm... I 'm pretty skeptical about that. The annealing temp. for aluminum is over 600*F and powder coating is </=400*F. The T6 tempering/aging of aluminum is done in the 350-400*F range I think, so one could argue that might help to have an extra hour or so at 400*F.

So how did BBS powder coat my forged wheels?

Kevin M · 2007-04-13, 09:45 AM

I do not know that they are powdercoated. I do know that I would not risk weakening wheels I inted to put under significant stress without a materials engineer specifically telling me that it's okay. You may be right about it being okay, and you may not. I err on the side of caution in this case is all.

sperry · 2007-04-13, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

Hmmm... I 'm pretty skeptical about that. The annealing temp. for aluminum is over 600*F and powder coating is </=400*F. The T6 tempering/aging of aluminum is done in the 350-400*F range I think, so one could argue that might help to have an extra hour or so at 400*F.

So how did BBS powder coat my forged wheels?

Hell, I'm just wondering how forged races wheels survive brake temperatures.

Kevin M · 2007-04-13, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonK

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

eh?

Linky no worky for me.

Nick Koan · 2007-04-13, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Linky no worky for me.

Then click it better.

It links to a hand held powder coater for $120.

sperry · 2007-04-13, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Linky no worky for me.

It's a powdercoating sprayer for about $120. All you need now is a $20,000 industrial sized oven w/ hangers in it for 4 wheels!

tysonK · 2007-04-13, 10:07 AM

I designed that link to not work for Kevin, perfect.

Kevin M · 2007-04-13, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nKoan

Then click it better.

I have improved my clicking techniques apparently.

2007-03-15, 08:10 AM	#1
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	The Powder Man in Sparks I got a bunch of stuff powder coated at the Powder Man this week. The shop and office are not the cleanest most organized places in the world, but he did a great job and turned the stuff around quickly. Also his price and turn-around time were less than half of the other three places I checked. I doubt you could get a better price anywhere. Phone number is 775-359-2480, and he's on Marietta Way in Sparks just off Glendale. Here's some more info: http://www.merchantcircle.com/busine...n.775-359-2480 Last edited by knucklesplitter; 2007-03-15 at 08:35 AM.

2007-04-10, 11:50 AM	#4
markcjr EJ18 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: truckee, CA Posts: 56	rims Have you gone yet? I'd like to do my rims black if possible. Mark

2007-04-10, 09:02 PM	#5
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	+1 id be in if you havent already gone for some primer wheels. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2007-04-12, 10:41 AM	#9
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I've got a set of FN01RC's that have that stupid "hyper black" finish that's more like a candy coating than paint/powdercoat. When you heat the wheels up to 500 deg, it peels. I was thinking the next time the tires on there are dead I'd strip the coating and get them powdercoated 20% gloss white. Not sure if that fits in w/ anyone else's plans... __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-04-12, 10:58 PM	#10
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	wait now that i think of it i thought you couldnt powdercoat aluminum wheels. how glossy is 20% gloss because i would rather do that if it is noticably shiny instead of primer and then painting them myself. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2007-03-15, 08:25 AM	#2
zpeed EJ251 Real Name: Nat S Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno, NV USA Posts: 743 Car: 06 S2000 Class: RNP & PDX	2nd that, I use him long time a go to powder coated my gokart frame and rims. Good price.

2007-03-15, 08:34 AM	#3
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	Oh yeah, forgot to thank chrscott_01 for the recommendation. If anybody needs something in semi-flat black or primer gray (compatible with any top-coat paint) let me know, and I can throw it in with the batches that I will be doing there. The price will be very very cheap. He did a couple of my Hood Vent frames for less than $5 each including prep and masking the studs. I could barely buy the spray paint I'd need for that.

2007-04-12, 08:02 AM	#6
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	I will be doing another batch in about 2 weeks. I'm not sure how we'd swing getting the wheels in there, but we could try. The black I use is not completely flat - it's 20% gloss.

2007-04-12, 09:00 AM	#7
markcjr EJ18 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: truckee, CA Posts: 56	ok, that would be great. If I know a day or two in advance, I'll arrange to have me wheels ready. Mark Any idea of price for 4 16" 98 rs wheels? They are the gold that came on there, but have some chips etc. Thanks

2007-04-13, 08:01 AM	#11
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	You can surely powdercoat aluminum wheels. I just don't know what kind of prep they need. 20%gloss would be called a semi-flat (or maybe satin) black - close to the typical black you see on car trim pieces. Regular powder coating is cured at 400F, so I do not know if it can withstand 500F

2007-04-13, 09:02 AM	#13
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	It's forged/semi-forged wheels you're not supposed topowdercoat. Cast aluminum is fine. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-04-13, 09:20 AM	#15
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku eh? __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2007-04-13, 09:34 AM	#17
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	It has nothing to do with the surface and everything to do with 500 degree heat ruining the temper fo the metal. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-04-13, 09:45 AM	#19
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I do not know that they are powdercoated. I do know that I would not risk weakening wheels I inted to put under significant stress without a materials engineer specifically telling me that it's okay. You may be right about it being okay, and you may not. I err on the side of caution in this case is all. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-04-13, 10:07 AM	#24
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	I designed that link to not work for Kevin, perfect. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

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