The Official 2008 Formula 1 Thread! - Page 2 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nick Koan · 2008-01-10, 09:37 AM

And looks like Prodrive have dropped their F1 ambitions altogether.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64623

Kevin M · 2008-01-10, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

And looks like Prodrive have dropped their F1 ambitions altogether.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64623

:sadpanda:

skimonkey30 · 2008-01-10, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan

The Toyota TF108 has been unveiled.

Haven't found any high-res photos yet. But it looks like they are debuting with the McLaren style front wing.

and ferrari's wheel covers

sperry · 2008-01-10, 02:02 PM

Ugh... earth livery, wheel covers, no Prodrive... 2008 sucks.

FIA should just scrap the wheel covers all together. They can't make that big of a difference in aero, but they sure look ugly. Especially Ferrari w/ their stupid painted-on wheel spokes so as to not piss off BBS. The car just looks dumb as hell flying around the track w/ "stopped" front wheels.

MikeK · 2008-01-10, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

FIA should just scrap the wheel covers all together. They can't make that big of a difference in aero, but they sure look ugly. Especially Ferrari w/ their stupid painted-on wheel spokes so as to not piss off BBS. The car just looks dumb as hell flying around the track w/ "stopped" front wheels.

I'm not watching anymore F1 until they have these.

sperry · 2008-01-10, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

I'm not watching anymore F1 until they have these.

Meh... the spinning LED message boards are better.

Nick Koan · 2008-01-14, 09:36 AM

BMW Sauber debuted the F1.08.

Sounds like they are going to try and win races this year.

Nick Koan · 2008-01-16, 10:00 AM

Red Bull Racing RB4

skimonkey30 · 2008-01-16, 12:56 PM

Mark Webber looks SO HAPPY

Nick Koan · 2008-01-16, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skimonkey30

Mark Webber looks SO HAPPY

Webber always looks like he's got a stick up his ass, so that's nothing new

Nick Koan · 2008-01-17, 09:58 AM

And for weird news...

The first engine change of 08 for each driver will not incur a penalty (pending approval of the rule), for some weird reason.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64747

Quote:

Formula One drivers are set to escape a grid penalty for their first engine change of the season, autosport.com can reveal, after teams agreed to a minor tweak to the rules.

Since the introduction of longer life engines, a driver has been automatically handed a 10-place grid penalty for an engine change in during practice sessions, or has been moved to the back of the grid if he has needed a new power unit after the start of qualifying.

But following discussions in last week's team principals' meeting in Paris, it was agreed that the first engine change of the season should now no longer result in a punishment.

In a letter sent by FIA president Max Mosley to teams, he confirms in writing that the rule tweak was supported by team principals.

"It was agreed that each team could have one engine failure per car without penalty during the 2008 season," wrote Mosley. "This would be the first engine failure suffered by each car."

The rule proposal still needs approval by the FIA World Motor Sport Council, with a vote on the matter expected imminently.

Nick Koan · 2008-01-21, 03:30 PM

Williams FW30

This isn't the final Livery. This is the second of six liveries Williams will be testing with this winter in commemoration of their 30th Anniversary.

sybir · 2008-01-21, 07:33 PM

That's too bad, that livery is the clsoest thing to classic F1 we've seen in a while besides Ferrari.

Nick Koan · 2008-01-23, 07:46 PM

BMW-Sauber tried out a funky new nose with antlers.

MPREZIV · 2008-01-28, 05:12 PM

According to the "speed report" on Speedvision, Toyota has officially given their F1 endeavor two years, beginning at the start of this season, to either start winning, or start packing up. Apparently if they don't start placing Toyota plans on just giving up on F1 all together.

Shit, or get off the pot...

sperry · 2008-01-28, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

According to the "speed report" on Speedvision, Toyota has officially given their F1 endeavor two years, beginning at the start of this season, to either start winning, or start packing up. Apparently if they don't start placing Toyota plans on just giving up on F1 all together.

Shit, or get off the pot...

That's been coming for a long time... Toyota spends more money on F1 than any other team, and they're not getting squat for a return on their "investment".

The sad truth is that their real problem is that Toyota simply doesn't have the right mindset for a factory F1 team. Look at Ferrari... their road cars eat, drink, and breath F1 technology. Toyota's closest thing to a sports car is what, the Scion tC? While I can't speak to the culture of the Toyota folks in England that directly run their F1 team, I certainly think the blokes back at Toyota Japan simply don't have the right mindset for putting together a winning F1 team... it takes more than just a truck-load of money. Look at Super Aguri... are they championship contenders? No, but on a tiny-ass budget, they're actually racing with the big boys... and they do it all with heart.

Bottom line... Toyota is a soulless corporation trying to compete in a sport where success is still dependent on having a winning spirit as well as a space-program level budget.

Nick Koan · 2008-01-28, 05:42 PM

Actually, Toyota is based in Cologne Germany (the former TTE that used to run the WRC Program).

Their location has sometimes been attributed to some of their weaknesses. Basically building a team from the ground up, with no experience in the sport and no easy way to scavenge people from former F1 teams. I actually kind of buy into it, especially when you see the Williams team doing better than the factory team.

Anyway, the rumor I've been reading is that if the F1 thing doesn't pan out in the next two years, they'll go back to Le Mans style sports car racing with hybrid engines and they'll take a bigger stake in Williams to keep an F1 presence.

Nick Koan · 2008-01-29, 09:48 AM

Honda RA108

Still have the earth livery, but it looks a little better.

sperry · 2008-01-29, 10:19 AM

Sooooo much better looking!

Especially since it doesn't have nKoan and Sybir's names on it.

sybir · 2008-01-29, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Sooooo much better looking!

Especially since it doesn't have nKoan and Sybir's names on it.

Ass

Nick Koan · 2008-01-31, 08:43 AM

Renault R28

Funky new front wing

tysonK · 2008-01-31, 11:11 AM

All the colors on the R28 make it hard for me to see the shape of anything, maybe that's just me.

They probably do that by design anyways.

sperry · 2008-01-31, 11:14 AM

I really like the livery for Renault for the last 2 years. Traditional gay-French blue be damned!

Nick Koan · 2008-02-07, 09:14 AM

Force India VJM01 was unveiled today in Mumbai.

Nothing really special to note, except that they've changed their color scheme to include a lot of gold now

sperry · 2008-02-07, 09:27 AM

Wow, nice old-school paint job! Looks like a pack of cigarettes.

2008-01-10, 09:37 AM	#26
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And looks like Prodrive have dropped their F1 ambitions altogether. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64623 __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-10, 02:02 PM	#29
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Ugh... earth livery, wheel covers, no Prodrive... 2008 sucks. FIA should just scrap the wheel covers all together. They can't make that big of a difference in aero, but they sure look ugly. Especially Ferrari w/ their stupid painted-on wheel spokes so as to not piss off BBS. The car just looks dumb as hell flying around the track w/ "stopped" front wheels. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-01-14, 09:36 AM	#32
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	BMW Sauber debuted the F1.08. Sounds like they are going to try and win races this year. Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-16, 10:00 AM	#33
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Red Bull Racing RB4 Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-16, 12:56 PM	#34
skimonkey30 Mr. Romano Real Name: David Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 932 Car: 2013 F150 Class: Mellow Yellow Rubbin's Racin	Mark Webber looks SO HAPPY __________________ That would be Mr. Dipshit to you.........sir

2008-01-21, 03:30 PM	#37
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Williams FW30 This isn't the final Livery. This is the second of six liveries Williams will be testing with this winter in commemoration of their 30th Anniversary. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-21, 07:33 PM	#38
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	That's too bad, that livery is the clsoest thing to classic F1 we've seen in a while besides Ferrari. __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2008-01-23, 07:46 PM	#39
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	BMW-Sauber tried out a funky new nose with antlers. Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-28, 05:12 PM	#40
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	According to the "speed report" on Speedvision, Toyota has officially given their F1 endeavor two years, beginning at the start of this season, to either start winning, or start packing up. Apparently if they don't start placing Toyota plans on just giving up on F1 all together. Shit, or get off the pot... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2008-01-28, 05:42 PM	#42
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Actually, Toyota is based in Cologne Germany (the former TTE that used to run the WRC Program). Their location has sometimes been attributed to some of their weaknesses. Basically building a team from the ground up, with no experience in the sport and no easy way to scavenge people from former F1 teams. I actually kind of buy into it, especially when you see the Williams team doing better than the factory team. Anyway, the rumor I've been reading is that if the F1 thing doesn't pan out in the next two years, they'll go back to Le Mans style sports car racing with hybrid engines and they'll take a bigger stake in Williams to keep an F1 presence. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2008-01-28 at 05:44 PM. Reason: TTE Europe is like ATM Machine

2008-01-29, 09:48 AM	#43
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Honda RA108 Still have the earth livery, but it looks a little better. Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-29, 10:19 AM	#44
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Sooooo much better looking! Especially since it doesn't have nKoan and Sybir's names on it. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-01-31, 08:43 AM	#46
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Renault R28 Funky new front wing Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-01-31, 11:11 AM	#47
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	All the colors on the R28 make it hard for me to see the shape of anything, maybe that's just me. They probably do that by design anyways. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2008-01-31, 11:14 AM	#48
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I really like the livery for Renault for the last 2 years. Traditional gay-French blue be damned! __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-02-07, 09:14 AM	#49
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Force India VJM01 was unveiled today in Mumbai. Nothing really special to note, except that they've changed their color scheme to include a lot of gold now Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-02-07, 09:27 AM	#50
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Wow, nice old-school paint job! Looks like a pack of cigarettes. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

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