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dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 04:34 PM

so I was illegally racing a ferrari when oh noes!

but seriously, floored it coming up mccaren and spun the clutch at the top of third. guess im making too much power finally.

anyone have any opinions on sti after market clutches?

im thinking ill rock the twin carbon cusco, or just the twin plate. they seem to be cheapest and best way to go.

MattR · 2007-11-24, 05:03 PM

I like the ACT unsprung 6 puck that Dean put in his Sti. I'm pretty sure it's what I'll be doing soon. Dean let me drive his and I like the feel, it's still moderatley streetable but holds like hell.

dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 05:08 PM

which flywheel did he decide to go with ?

pro or streetlite?

dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 05:13 PM

i wonder how much el cheapo got his installed for...

MattR · 2007-11-24, 05:21 PM

I don't know which flywheel he used, does it say in his thread? I think GST did his install, so it must have been a good deal on it.

Kevin M · 2007-11-24, 05:28 PM

I would espect he went with the Streetlite, but I can't say for sure.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-24, 05:29 PM

Pretty sure Dean's got the streetlight.

dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 05:37 PM

that would be odd IMO to go streetlight and 6 puck...

ill call gst on monday see what they can offer for install.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-24, 05:41 PM

Actually, it specifically says so in Dean's thread... "streetlight". It's the same setup I put in Ryan T's car a short while afterwards.

REALLY nice feel to it on high power cars, without being too much of a PITA to drive.

dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 05:43 PM

wierd, wonder why you wouldnt spring for the extra 20 bucks and drop like 4 more rotating pounds.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-24, 05:46 PM

Most of the time, cars that are regularly driven on the street will be a HUGE pain with too light of a flywheel... The lack of inertia causes it to be a bitch in stop and go traffic. The seriously light flywheels are typically left alone by guys that want to, or have to drive their cars on the street at all.

dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 05:51 PM

easily said for an unsprung clutch as well.

im well aware of the disadvantages of both. if 6 puck... whynot super light ? would actually make things easier on the clutch. more rotational weight would make the unsprung clutch feel worse but if the flywheel is light then its less noticeable, buy actually a big difference.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-24, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

easily said for an unsprung clutch as well.

im well aware of the disadvantages of both. if 6 puck... whynot super light ? would actually make things easier on the clutch. more rotational weight would make the unsprung clutch feel worse but if the flywheel is light then its less noticeable, buy actually a big difference.

Trust me man, we were all a bit dumbfounded by this as well, but it's REALLY smooth and easy to drive for being a 6 puck, unsprung clutch. There is just some kind of a "zen" little spot, that is found in between the exact weight of the street-light flywheel, and the engagement of the 6 puck clutch. Other combinations of ACT's clutches/flywheels just don't have the reputation for holding as much torque, or being as smooth as this *exact* combination.

GST Mike · 2007-11-24, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Trust me man, we were all a bit dumbfounded by this as well, but it's REALLY smooth and easy to drive for being a 6 puck, unsprung clutch. There is just some kind of a "zen" little spot, that is found in between the exact weight of the street-light flywheel, and the engagement of the 6 puck clutch. Other combinations of ACT's clutches/flywheels just don't have the reputation for holding as much torque, or being as smooth as this *exact* combination.

My favorite street clutch combo on a 6sp by far, holds well with plenty of grab but able to be slipped when needs be.

We run the unsprung 6 puck in the race cars but with the Prolite flywheel, not sure I would want to drive that on 880 freeway at 8am Monday but makes for a great race setup.

Mike

dayofpain · 2007-11-24, 07:40 PM

how many hours you guys charge for the clutch / flywheel install ? or do you have some package deal type thing.

Dean · 2007-11-24, 08:00 PM

ACT 6 Puck w/Streetlight FTW. It will launch like nobody's business at autocross and is still very streetable.

It is already a bit weird on up shifts having to almost sort of rev match. The ultralight would just spin down too fast and not be fun on the street IMHO.

sperry · 2007-11-24, 11:54 PM

I've got the 4 puck ACT and the Prolight. I wouldn't want to drive it on the street regularly, but it's not impossible.

Let me put it this way, if "10" is the stock clutch's driveability, and "1" is un-streetable, I'd give the 4 puck and prolight a 3. The exceedy hyper-single I had before, I'd give a 4, maybe a 5. From what people tell me, the 6 puck/streetlight is probably a 6 or 7.

wrxkidid · 2007-11-25, 10:47 AM

I had a Exedy Twin HD in my evo. On scotts scale I would give it about a 7-8 but I don't know if they make them for the sti? The evo guys use them to up around 450-500 whp. My kit came with a flywheel.

GST Mike · 2007-11-25, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayofpain

how many hours you guys charge for the clutch / flywheel install ? or do you have some package deal type thing.

We charge based off 5.5 hours and round down

Mike

2007-11-24, 04:34 PM	#1
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	Uhp! broke more stuff. so I was illegally racing a ferrari when oh noes! but seriously, floored it coming up mccaren and spun the clutch at the top of third. guess im making too much power finally. anyone have any opinions on sti after market clutches? im thinking ill rock the twin carbon cusco, or just the twin plate. they seem to be cheapest and best way to go. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 05:03 PM	#2
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I like the ACT unsprung 6 puck that Dean put in his Sti. I'm pretty sure it's what I'll be doing soon. Dean let me drive his and I like the feel, it's still moderatley streetable but holds like hell. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2007-11-24, 05:08 PM	#3
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	which flywheel did he decide to go with ? pro or streetlite? __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 05:13 PM	#4
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	i wonder how much el cheapo got his installed for... __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 05:21 PM	#5
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I don't know which flywheel he used, does it say in his thread? I think GST did his install, so it must have been a good deal on it. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2007-11-24, 05:28 PM	#6
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I would espect he went with the Streetlite, but I can't say for sure. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-11-24, 05:29 PM	#7
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Pretty sure Dean's got the streetlight. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-24, 05:37 PM	#8
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	that would be odd IMO to go streetlight and 6 puck... ill call gst on monday see what they can offer for install. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 05:41 PM	#9
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Actually, it specifically says so in Dean's thread... "streetlight". It's the same setup I put in Ryan T's car a short while afterwards. REALLY nice feel to it on high power cars, without being too much of a PITA to drive. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-24, 05:43 PM	#10
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	wierd, wonder why you wouldnt spring for the extra 20 bucks and drop like 4 more rotating pounds. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 05:46 PM	#11
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Most of the time, cars that are regularly driven on the street will be a HUGE pain with too light of a flywheel... The lack of inertia causes it to be a bitch in stop and go traffic. The seriously light flywheels are typically left alone by guys that want to, or have to drive their cars on the street at all. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-11-24, 05:51 PM	#12
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	easily said for an unsprung clutch as well. im well aware of the disadvantages of both. if 6 puck... whynot super light ? would actually make things easier on the clutch. more rotational weight would make the unsprung clutch feel worse but if the flywheel is light then its less noticeable, buy actually a big difference. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 07:40 PM	#15
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	how many hours you guys charge for the clutch / flywheel install ? or do you have some package deal type thing. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-24, 08:00 PM	#16
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	ACT 6 Puck w/Streetlight FTW. It will launch like nobody's business at autocross and is still very streetable. It is already a bit weird on up shifts having to almost sort of rev match. The ultralight would just spin down too fast and not be fun on the street IMHO. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2007-11-25 at 09:19 AM.

2007-11-24, 11:54 PM	#17
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I've got the 4 puck ACT and the Prolight. I wouldn't want to drive it on the street regularly, but it's not impossible. Let me put it this way, if "10" is the stock clutch's driveability, and "1" is un-streetable, I'd give the 4 puck and prolight a 3. The exceedy hyper-single I had before, I'd give a 4, maybe a 5. From what people tell me, the 6 puck/streetlight is probably a 6 or 7. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-11-25, 10:47 AM	#18
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	I had a Exedy Twin HD in my evo. On scotts scale I would give it about a 7-8 but I don't know if they make them for the sti? The evo guys use them to up around 450-500 whp. My kit came with a flywheel. __________________ Mosey down the road.

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