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|  2009-08-04, 12:50 PM | #2076 | |
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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|  2009-08-05, 01:12 PM | #2077 | 
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|  2009-08-06, 04:30 PM | #2078 | 
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|  2009-08-14, 01:42 PM | #2079 | 
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|  2009-08-18, 11:04 AM | #2080 | 
| (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV 
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|  2009-08-18, 11:19 AM | #2081 | 
| (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV 
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|  2009-08-18, 12:13 PM | #2082 | |
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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|  2009-08-18, 01:04 PM | #2083 | 
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|  2009-08-19, 10:11 AM | #2084 | 
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|  2009-08-19, 08:04 PM | #2085 | 
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|  2009-08-22, 10:09 AM | #2086 | 
| (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV 
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			I laughed pretty hard at this.  I don't even know why.  Probably just one of those moods where you are crazy tired and laugh at everything. 
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|  2009-08-25, 06:51 PM | #2088 | 
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|  2009-08-25, 08:46 PM | #2089 | |
| Seņor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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				 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me. |   Quote: An example would be that he doesn't even appear to setup for the slowest corner on the track, and he misses what i would consider to be apexes all over the place. Again, not saying I could do better, just that he did not appear to be that great of a driver IMHO. 
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|  2009-08-25, 10:29 PM | #2090 | |
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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 Specifically, you can't "setup" for the carousel. You just have to slow way down and limp though it, or risk destroying the car. And most of the apexes he's missing are either too bumpy/too high of a curb to risk, or he's missing by such a small amount that it won't really make a big impact on the overall lap time. Better to lose 10ths driving conservatively rather than lose seconds having to recover from a large error on a corner exiting onto a 3 mile long straight... or worse, shunt and kill yourself. Think of the track more like a rally than a normal closed course track. You really don't memorize each corner, each braking zone, each apex, each track-out point. You learn the big landmarks (usually the spots where it's easiest to kill yourself), and then get a basic understanding of the corners/sectors to the point where you have basically the same amount of foresight a rally driver has with his co-drivers assistance. You expect laps there to be 9/10ths at best, because it's virtually impossible to run 10/10ths the whole way around... what with all the traffic, bumps, paint, curbs, etc. The track is just too unpredictable to run flat out and expect to survive the lap. And frankly, you don't need to run flat out, because the course is so long that even record setting laps are littered with mistakes. All you have to do is make sure your mistakes are all small, i.e. drive conservatively. So, not to say your analysis of the lap is wrong... just pointing out that for the 'ring, it was pretty clean. Wanna see a filth dirty lap? Check out the (in)famous Yellow Bird lap of the 'ring: 
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|  2009-08-25, 11:39 PM | #2091 | |
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|  2009-08-26, 09:01 AM | #2092 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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			Like I said, it's like a rally stage more than a race track.  Even Loeb will have tons of "suboptimal" corners on his way to winning an event by 15 minutes.  Unless you're one of the top 5 drivers in history, or someone that's driver 10,000 laps at the 'ring, no one is going to be able to run an "optimal" lap the way you can run at T-Hill or something where the track is learnable and mistakes aren't lethal.
		 
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|  2009-08-26, 09:34 AM | #2093 | 
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			Did you listen to the guy describing the lap? He narrates why he goes off line most of the time.
		 
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|  2009-08-26, 10:17 AM | #2094 | 
| Seņor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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			Yes, and I did not mean to start a big debate. He mentions both some of his mistakes as well as why he avoids some areas of the track, so clearly even he thinks it could have been better.
		 
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|  2009-08-26, 12:54 PM | #2095 | 
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			He described the sounds, bumps, car loading, wing set up and even told you it was the splitter you heard hitting the ground.  Great post Tyson!..  Most of the curbs to look large but this is coming from somebody that uses little wheels.
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|  2009-08-26, 01:43 PM | #2096 | 
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|  2009-08-26, 01:56 PM | #2097 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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			Porn.  Then low-cost generic viagra.  Then big debates about dumb shit.
		 
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|  2009-08-27, 06:11 AM | #2098 | 
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			I agree with that order. But maybe it's just generic viagira ads.
		 
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|  2009-08-31, 07:01 PM | #2099 | 
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