Opinions on Axxis ULT and StopTech pads? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

swr999 · 2010-04-15, 09:19 PM

Any opinions on the Axxis/PBR ULT pads, and the StopTech "Performance" street pads? The application is mostly street with occasional HPDE track use. $$ is a consideration, but not the only one. Don't particularly want to be swapping pads at the track. Thanks!!

Kevin M · 2010-04-15, 09:35 PM

I personally cannot stand Axxis pads, but I've heard tons of good feedback for the Stoptech street pads. I just bought a set for both my Stoptechs going on my Forester XT, and for the Subaru 4 pot brakes on my little wagon. The new Street Performance pads seem to be the magic bullet for just about any street/autocross car.

Dean · 2010-04-16, 05:34 AM

Ults are good as long as you do not get them too hot. I'm a big fan of the whole EBC lineup though as they are a better bang for your buck IMHO. Do some searching, we have discussed most every brake pad choice at least once.

cody · 2010-04-16, 08:04 AM

I have a set of Porterfield R4-S rears that should fit your car but don't fit mine. They have a little bit of wear, but look practically new. $20?

I may also have a new set of EBC Yellows for the rear of your car too, cheap. EBC sent me a free set but they're also for the later MY fitment. But if they ask me to send them back in order to get the right ones, I won't be able to sell them.

Yellows are more aggressive and work for track days but somehow are streetable too. R4-S are great street/autox pads.

szucchet · 2010-04-16, 11:00 AM

+1 on the ebc yellows have them in my sti and they work good. so far i got about 7 auto-x, 3 track days and a whole winter (in tahoe) on them with no problem. stay away from ebc reds they suck, they are loud, and takes some heat before they work correctly.

swr999 · 2010-04-16, 04:16 PM

But, back to the StopTechs; I assume they are a new formulation, not a relabeled pad from somebody else? I couldn't find much information on the StopTech website besides a bar graph.

When I do a product search for '05 WRX/STi on the StopTech site, they come up with 4 pads for the STi. ST41 (p/n 309.06080), ST40 (309.06090), ST22 (309.09610), and ST60 (309.12470). Are the STxx numbers an industry pad size reference?

KNSbrakes.com lists 309.1001 front and 309.01690 rear. $80F/$50R. Is that an OK deal? Thanks all!

sperry · 2010-04-16, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by swr999

But, back to the StopTechs; I assume they are a new formulation, not a relabeled pad from somebody else? I couldn't find much information on the StopTech website besides a bar graph.

When I do a product search for '05 WRX/STi on the StopTech site, they come up with 4 pads for the STi. ST41 (p/n 309.06080), ST40 (309.06090), ST22 (309.09610), and ST60 (309.12470). Are the STxx numbers an industry pad size reference?

KNSbrakes.com lists 309.1001 front and 309.01690 rear. $80F/$50R. Is that an OK deal? Thanks all!

The STxx numbers are references to the various StopTech calipers they sell with their big brake kits. Those are the pads for their own brakes.

swr999 · 2010-04-25, 05:40 PM

Well, I'm giving the StopTechs a try (the "Performance Street"). Installed them (F&R) yesterday and did a couple sets of bed-ins. Got 'em pretty hot and no noticeable fade. No bad behavior so far. We'll see how they do...

GusGus91 · 2010-04-28, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by swr999

Well, I'm giving the StopTechs a try (the "Performance Street"). Installed them (F&R) yesterday and did a couple sets of bed-ins. Got 'em pretty hot and no noticeable fade. No bad behavior so far. We'll see how they do...

This is good to know. I just got mine yesterday.. I'll put them on this weekend and see how they do.

A1337STI · 2010-04-28, 10:41 AM

Anyone know where i can get replacement rotors for cheaper than $240 for a set of 4 ?

sperry · 2010-04-28, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI

Anyone know where i can get replacement rotors for cheaper than $240 for a set of 4 ?

Sure. Here are some for a '98-'05 VW Bug. $80 for all four. Link.

Or maybe you could tell us what sort of car you're shopping for rotors for.

cody · 2010-04-28, 11:01 AM

NAPA?

Kevin M · 2010-04-28, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by A1337STI

Anyone know where i can get replacement rotors for cheaper than $240 for a set of 4 ?

If it's for the STi, no. If it's for the rally car, NAPA like Cody said.

szucchet · 2010-04-28, 01:21 PM

what he said^ the cheapest rotors i found for sti are on ebay and they go for 180 + shipping for fronts

A1337STI · 2010-04-29, 09:27 AM

seeing how my rally car is Drums in the rear... (ya guess no one really has a way of knowing this) or that i just replaced the brakes on the rally car (think i mentioned that but maybe not)

ya its for the STI. i can get Brembo 9.4" rotors for the rally car for 12$ a piece (fronts of course) and drums are more .. lolz

allrighty so i guess 240 for 4 is not to bad of a deal . guess i should see if i can turn my again hmmf

2010-04-15, 09:19 PM	#1
swr999 n00b Real Name: Steve Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 14 Car: 2005 Subaru WRX/STi Class: IPtBy If it's worth doing... it's worth doing badly.	Opinions on Axxis ULT and StopTech pads? Any opinions on the Axxis/PBR ULT pads, and the StopTech "Performance" street pads? The application is mostly street with occasional HPDE track use. $$ is a consideration, but not the only one. Don't particularly want to be swapping pads at the track. Thanks!!

2010-04-15, 09:35 PM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I personally cannot stand Axxis pads, but I've heard tons of good feedback for the Stoptech street pads. I just bought a set for both my Stoptechs going on my Forester XT, and for the Subaru 4 pot brakes on my little wagon. The new Street Performance pads seem to be the magic bullet for just about any street/autocross car. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2010-04-16, 05:34 AM	#3
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Ults are good as long as you do not get them too hot. I'm a big fan of the whole EBC lineup though as they are a better bang for your buck IMHO. Do some searching, we have discussed most every brake pad choice at least once. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2010-04-16, 08:04 AM	#4
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I have a set of Porterfield R4-S rears that should fit your car but don't fit mine. They have a little bit of wear, but look practically new. $20? I may also have a new set of EBC Yellows for the rear of your car too, cheap. EBC sent me a free set but they're also for the later MY fitment. But if they ask me to send them back in order to get the right ones, I won't be able to sell them. Yellows are more aggressive and work for track days but somehow are streetable too. R4-S are great street/autox pads. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-04-16, 11:00 AM	#5
szucchet EJ22 Real Name: Silvio Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sacramento, ca Posts: 271 Car: 2004 Subaru STI Class: 04 TSM smooth is fast	+1 on the ebc yellows have them in my sti and they work good. so far i got about 7 auto-x, 3 track days and a whole winter (in tahoe) on them with no problem. stay away from ebc reds they suck, they are loud, and takes some heat before they work correctly. __________________ funny how day by day nothing changes, but when i look back everything is different

2010-04-16, 04:16 PM	#6
swr999 n00b Real Name: Steve Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 14 Car: 2005 Subaru WRX/STi Class: IPtBy If it's worth doing... it's worth doing badly.	But, back to the StopTechs; I assume they are a new formulation, not a relabeled pad from somebody else? I couldn't find much information on the StopTech website besides a bar graph. When I do a product search for '05 WRX/STi on the StopTech site, they come up with 4 pads for the STi. ST41 (p/n 309.06080), ST40 (309.06090), ST22 (309.09610), and ST60 (309.12470). Are the STxx numbers an industry pad size reference? KNSbrakes.com lists 309.1001 front and 309.01690 rear. $80F/$50R. Is that an OK deal? Thanks all!

2010-04-25, 05:40 PM	#8
swr999 n00b Real Name: Steve Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 14 Car: 2005 Subaru WRX/STi Class: IPtBy If it's worth doing... it's worth doing badly.	Well, I'm giving the StopTechs a try (the "Performance Street"). Installed them (F&R) yesterday and did a couple sets of bed-ins. Got 'em pretty hot and no noticeable fade. No bad behavior so far. We'll see how they do...

2010-04-28, 10:41 AM	#10
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	Anyone know where i can get replacement rotors for cheaper than $240 for a set of 4 ? __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2010-04-28, 11:01 AM	#12
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	NAPA? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-04-28, 01:21 PM	#14
szucchet EJ22 Real Name: Silvio Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sacramento, ca Posts: 271 Car: 2004 Subaru STI Class: 04 TSM smooth is fast	what he said^ the cheapest rotors i found for sti are on ebay and they go for 180 + shipping for fronts __________________ funny how day by day nothing changes, but when i look back everything is different Last edited by szucchet; 2010-04-28 at 02:41 PM.

2010-04-29, 09:27 AM	#15
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	seeing how my rally car is Drums in the rear... (ya guess no one really has a way of knowing this) or that i just replaced the brakes on the rally car (think i mentioned that but maybe not) ya its for the STI. i can get Brembo 9.4" rotors for the rally car for 12$ a piece (fronts of course) and drums are more .. lolz allrighty so i guess 240 for 4 is not to bad of a deal . guess i should see if i can turn my again hmmf __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!