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Dean · 2006-01-06, 10:09 AM

I hate you all. Remind me to kill you....

MattR · 2006-01-06, 10:11 AM

Sweet, I was looking for that rule about boost...Thanks Mike, I missed it somehow when I skimmed through.

So, My car is technically a BSP car now. Interesting. I'd prefer to run with everyone else though, in SM.

MikeK · 2006-01-06, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean

I hate you all. Remind me to kill you....

You have to catch us first ... *snap*!

Dean · 2006-01-06, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

You have to catch us first ... *snap*!

It's not a matter of catching you, it is a matter of waiting for you to catch up...

M3n2c3 · 2006-01-06, 01:54 PM

That's ok, I'll be the one going, "hey guys, wait up!"

dknv · 2006-01-06, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MattR

Matt- Sti
Eric- Sti
Mike K- Sti
Scott- FrankenSuby
Pete- WRX
Andy- WRX
Brian- STi

So yeah, it will be the most competitive class in 2006. I can guarantee that.

And that doesn't even include any properly-prepared SM BMW's who might show up.

dknv · 2006-01-06, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

I hate you all. Remind me to kill you....

Pourquoi? Because of the free boost?

MattR · 2006-01-06, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv

And that doesn't even include any properly-prepared SM BMW's who might show up.

What do you know? haha. I know Jim Kunze in his M3 is also in SM, as is Vistor in his Mini. We're all screwed if someone decides to run a full season in a really prepped SM BMW.

Ezdno · 2006-01-06, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

RTFRB.

Definately the short answer here!

cody · 2006-01-11, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

ARGHHHHH Read teh bloody rules....

Solo
http://www.scca.org/_filelibrary/Fi..._solo_rules.pdf
GCR
http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/GCR2006.pdf

Batteries, and intake changes are allowed in SP, and always have been. More Boost is the primary change in SP this year.

Solo link is busted. Where can I find the rulebook?

MikeK · 2006-01-11, 02:10 PM

Solo rules

cody · 2006-01-11, 02:12 PM

Thank You!

cody · 2006-02-15, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

So Cody, I think you might be in ESP.

After finally reading the rule rulebook, I think you're right (although I do plan to run in novice). The "E" in ESP refers to the fact that it's a WRX right? (page 166 of the SCCA Rulebook)

I'm just trying to get the hang of what the different letters stand for.

And we did decide modified boost is okay for Street Prepared right? Dean confused me on this the other day.

sperry · 2006-02-15, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

After finally reading the rule rulebook, I think you're right (although I do plan to run in novice). The "E" in ESP refers to the fact that it's a WRX right? (page 166 of the SCCA Rulebook)

I'm just trying to get the hang of what the different letters stand for.

And we did decide modified boost is okay for Street Prepared right? Dean confused me on this the other day.

The "E" is for "not A B C D or F". The letters are arbitrary. The 2.0L WRX just happens to be in ESP because ESP just happens to have the cars that the WRX is competative with... assuming it didn't get moved like the STI did after they opened up boost in Street Prepared.

Nick Koan · 2006-02-15, 11:01 AM

Yeah, thats E Street Prepared. So, check out the street prepared rules to find out if your mods are legal, then you look up what version of SP you are eligible for in your car (which, is E).

As for boost, modified boost is now allowable in ESP but the mods to attain the altered boost has to be legal (and remapping the ECU is an allowable way to do this). If I recall correctly, you can't alter the turbo in any fashion.

sperry · 2006-02-15, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

Yeah, thats E Street Prepared. So, check out the street prepared rules to find out if your mods are legal, then you look up what version of SP you are eligible for in your car (which, is E).

As for boost, modified boost is now allowable in ESP but the mods to attain the altered boost has to be legal (and remapping the ECU is an allowable way to do this). If I recall correctly, you can't alter the turbo in any fashion.

That's not entirely true. You can alter the turbo through use of holistic processes. I like to sweet talk my turbo and play happy music for it. I think I'm getting like 1 or 2 extra PSI out of it.

Nick Koan · 2006-02-15, 11:05 AM

God damnit. I thought I was all set for ESP, but I can't find the 05+ GT in the Street Prepared rules. I know the '05+ has it's own line in Stock, but I can't seem to find it in SP. I guess that means I can run FSP under the Subaru 4WD Turbo NOC.

Or, more realisticly I need to dig through new FasTracks.

cody · 2006-02-15, 11:06 AM

Thanks guys. I'm excited.

cody · 2006-02-15, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

God damnit. I thought I was all set for ESP, but I can't find the 05+ GT in the Street Prepared rules. I know the '05+ has it's own line in Stock, but I can't seem to find it in SP. I guess that means I can run FSP under the Subaru 4WD Turbo NOC.

Or, more realisticly I need to dig through new FasTracks.

Doesn't page 168 indicate you'd be in FSP? It says Legacy GT so I'd assume that means all years right?

Nick Koan · 2006-02-15, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

Doesn't page 168 indicate you'd be in FSP? It says Legacy GT so I'd assume that means all years right?

Well, I could run with that, but since the '05+ is drastically different power wise to previous GT's, it should be classed different. In fact, it is in Stock form (DS instead of HS) which leads me to believe this is a clerical error, and I'm probably in ESP like I was last year.

Dean · 2006-02-15, 12:22 PM

Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find anything that puts you anywhere other than FSP... 2.5 forester, yes, ESP, but nothing on the LGT 2.5T

Nick Koan · 2006-02-15, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find anything that puts you anywhere other than FSP... 2.5 forester, yes, ESP, but nothing on the LGT 2.5T

I'll have to look, but I remember seeing a FasTrack from last year that put me in ESP.

cody · 2006-03-19, 08:44 PM

Would a taller hood scoop put you in a particular class?

Kevin M · 2006-03-19, 09:07 PM

Street Mod.

NevadaSTi · 2006-03-19, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Brian is still stock now, and I think he is only planning on a rear sway bar for autox, so STU or BSP. Brian?

Correct, I am still stock. Biggest problem I have is lack of money.

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Originally Posted by MattR

Sweet, I was looking for that rule about boost...Thanks Mike, I missed it somehow when I skimmed through.

So, My car is technically a BSP car now. Interesting. I'd prefer to run with everyone else though, in SM.

From my basic understanding of the rules, I would be running TBSP. So, I am fine with letting Matt run with the SM crowd. At least that way with my totally stock STi I can still be competitive.

2006-01-06, 10:09 AM	#26
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I hate you all. Remind me to kill you.... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-01-06, 10:11 AM	#27
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Sweet, I was looking for that rule about boost...Thanks Mike, I missed it somehow when I skimmed through. So, My car is technically a BSP car now. Interesting. I'd prefer to run with everyone else though, in SM. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2006-01-06, 01:54 PM	#30
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,888 Car: Current: 2014 Forester 2.5i Premium. Old: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP, long ago (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	That's ok, I'll be the one going, "hey guys, wait up!" __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2006-01-11, 02:12 PM	#37
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Thank You! __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-02-15, 11:01 AM	#40
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Yeah, thats E Street Prepared. So, check out the street prepared rules to find out if your mods are legal, then you look up what version of SP you are eligible for in your car (which, is E). As for boost, modified boost is now allowable in ESP but the mods to attain the altered boost has to be legal (and remapping the ECU is an allowable way to do this). If I recall correctly, you can't alter the turbo in any fashion. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-01-11, 02:10 PM	#36
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Solo rules

2006-02-15, 11:05 AM	#42
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	God damnit. I thought I was all set for ESP, but I can't find the 05+ GT in the Street Prepared rules. I know the '05+ has it's own line in Stock, but I can't seem to find it in SP. I guess that means I can run FSP under the Subaru 4WD Turbo NOC. Or, more realisticly I need to dig through new FasTracks. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-02-15, 11:06 AM	#43
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Thanks guys. I'm excited. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-02-15, 12:22 PM	#46
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find anything that puts you anywhere other than FSP... 2.5 forester, yes, ESP, but nothing on the LGT 2.5T __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-03-19, 08:44 PM	#48
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Would a taller hood scoop put you in a particular class?

2006-03-19, 09:07 PM	#49
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Street Mod. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

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