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100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 05:42 PM

$189 at JSCspeed.com

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GusGus91

Oh and is there any difference between the 52mm and 60mm besides size?

Just size... and awesomeness.

Dean · 2009-08-11, 06:14 PM

Not sure I would spend the $s on Defi without the controller and other features. Plenty of other "normal" gauges for less.

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-11, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

Yes, informed intelligent discussion. Hilarious.

This just about made me shit my pants.

And would you guys suggest the same heirarchy of gauges for an NA application? Should I quit asking questions as soon as they pop into my head and search first?

sybir · 2009-08-11, 09:47 PM

Yep, make sure you get a boost gauge.

Yes, I'd go in the same order. For an NA street car with cams and no ECU tuning, oil temp, oil pressure, and water temp (maaaaaaybe AFR) are all you're really going to need; you're looking for big issues while beating on the motor, not really tuning with gauges which what we're talking about with AFR, EGT, etc. You're not going to be making significant enough changes to flow in the motor that you're going to pop it running it lean, etc, for the most part - atmospheric is atmospheric. The only thing you can really tune with on an NA car is going to be a wideband.

And yes, the answer is almost always going to be "do a search", but there's not a whole lot of NA RS buildups because you're talking minimal gains compared to forced induction, especially at altitude.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Not sure I would spend the $s on Defi without the controller and other features. Plenty of other "normal" gauges for less.

If you have a cavity in the front of your mouth you can save money by getting silver fillings or you can spend a little extra for porcelain. If I am going to be looking at something everyday it might as well look good and defi's look good.

Dean · 2009-08-11, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

If you have a cavity in the front of your mouth you can save money by getting silver fillings or you can spend a little extra for porcelain. If I am going to be looking at something everyday it might as well look good and defi's look good.

WTF does that have to do with anything? Use that analogy on your wife when you bring home the hookers.

If you are buying gauges for looks, get some blingin' ones at P-Diddy's Phat crib o' gauges. If you want them for what gauges are supposed to do, provide data, either get what you can afford that does what you need, or save up for what you really want and do it right, or just finance the schnizzle ones, since that is the American way.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

WTF does that have to do with anything? Use that analogy on your wife when you bring home the hookers.

If you are buying gauges for looks, get some blingin' ones at P-Diddy's Phat crib o' gauges. If you want them for what gauges are supposed to do, provide data, either get what you can afford that does what you need, or save up for what you really want and do it right, or just finance the schnizzle ones, since that is the American way.

Dean, it's easy to see that gus is basing his decision on looks instead of the best function. He doesn't need the bells and whistles of the control unit but he wants the p-diddy bling that defi provides even without the control unit.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 11:02 PM

and why would you bring a hooker to your house?

GusGus91 · 2009-08-11, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Just size... and awesomeness.

I take it that the 60mm is the most awesomess of them?

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 11:13 PM

Get the red racers and spend the rest of your days happy.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-11, 11:17 PM

GusGus91 · 2009-08-11, 11:17 PM

Ordered the defi red racer boost gauge for now! =)

GusGus91 · 2009-08-11, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Oh damn. I hope mine looks as good as that!

GusGus91 · 2009-08-11, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Dean, it's easy to see that gus is basing his decision on looks instead of the best function. He doesn't need the bells and whistles of the control unit but he wants the p-diddy bling that defi provides even without the control unit.

Don't get me wrong. I want it to function well, and do what it should.. But I wanted it to look good as you said.. That's why I just ordered the Defi.

So now all I have to get is the pod for it, right?

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-11, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

PLEASE tell me you made that just for the sake of posting it in this thread...

And sybir, would AFR and EGT become more important if I decide I wanna tune my car? I keep going back and forth between paying for a tune, or spending a month researching it and slowly getting into tuning myself

Kevin M · 2009-08-12, 12:03 AM

EGT is an excellent tool for tuning whether you have boost or not, but it's not real useful the rest of the time. Same for AFR. Oil temp and oil pressure are the best diagnostic "oh shit I better shut it down now" gauges.

GusGus91 · 2009-08-12, 01:45 AM

now i have another problem... Buy the defi clock gauge pod.. Or buy a HID kit, and just get a steering column mount, if I can find one cheap.

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-12, 05:31 AM

How much is the hid kit pure looking at? I accidentally stumbled onto one that is really easy to install, it's pretty cheap, and it works and looks great IMO

Thanks Kevin. So I can spend the money on a protune, or gauges to tune myself?

cody · 2009-08-12, 08:18 AM

My Omori gauges are super responsive and I like them a lot. They even have threshold lights you can set for any value. However, the EGT sending units have had short lifespans and now I'm told that they don't even make the sending unit for my 3 year old gauge anymore.

GusGus91 · 2009-08-12, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bigrobwoot

How much is the hid kit pure looking at?

It's $160 at importimageracing.com

sperry · 2009-08-12, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GusGus91

now i have another problem... Buy the defi clock gauge pod.. Or buy a HID kit, and just get a steering column mount, if I can find one cheap.

The BF series Defi's come with simple mounting cups, no pod needed if you just want to slap it on the steering column. But I'm not sure if that's the same for the gauge you ordered.

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-12, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GusGus91

It's $160 at importimageracing.com

http://www.kaixenkits.com/

I got my kit from someone on nasioc, but that's their website. I'm really happy with it, but it seems like they raised their prices. I remember the $250 neighborhood. In any case, I'm sure that just about any plug n play kit is probably just as good as the next one.

Here's a pic of my 6000K Kaixen kit (and angel eyes, and recently added foglights)

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-12, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

The BF series Defi's come with simple mounting cups, no pod needed if you just want to slap it on the steering column. But I'm not sure if that's the same for the gauge you ordered.

I think the racer series also come with the little cups with sticky backing. At least mine did.

I think these prosport gauges look pretty cool.

YouTube- Prosport gauges in wrx

cody · 2009-08-12, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GusGus91

It's $160 at importimageracing.com

Check these out: http://www.crucialracing.com/products/hid.php

2009-08-11, 05:42 PM	#26
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	$189 at JSCspeed.com __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-08-11, 06:14 PM	#28
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Not sure I would spend the $s on Defi without the controller and other features. Plenty of other "normal" gauges for less. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-08-11, 09:47 PM	#30
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Yep, make sure you get a boost gauge. Yes, I'd go in the same order. For an NA street car with cams and no ECU tuning, oil temp, oil pressure, and water temp (maaaaaaybe AFR) are all you're really going to need; you're looking for big issues while beating on the motor, not really tuning with gauges which what we're talking about with AFR, EGT, etc. You're not going to be making significant enough changes to flow in the motor that you're going to pop it running it lean, etc, for the most part - atmospheric is atmospheric. The only thing you can really tune with on an NA car is going to be a wideband. And yes, the answer is almost always going to be "do a search", but there's not a whole lot of NA RS buildups because you're talking minimal gains compared to forced induction, especially at altitude. __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic. Last edited by sybir; 2009-08-11 at 09:50 PM.

2009-08-11, 11:02 PM	#34
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	and why would you bring a hooker to your house? __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-08-11, 11:13 PM	#36
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Get the red racers and spend the rest of your days happy. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-08-11, 11:17 PM	#37
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	__________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-08-11, 11:17 PM	#38
GusGus91 EJ205 Real Name: Austin Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Reno, NV Posts: 1,406 Car: 2006 WRB WRX TR, 2008 LR STI Class: Too classy Dont sweat the petty... Pet the sweaty.	Ordered the defi red racer boost gauge for now! =) __________________ "Like" me on facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/AP-Cre...2196449?v=wall _______________ 06 WRX w/ 6MT UNDER CONSTRUCTION 09 chicane yellow 370z

2009-08-12, 12:03 AM	#42
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	EGT is an excellent tool for tuning whether you have boost or not, but it's not real useful the rest of the time. Same for AFR. Oil temp and oil pressure are the best diagnostic "oh shit I better shut it down now" gauges. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-08-12, 01:45 AM	#43
GusGus91 EJ205 Real Name: Austin Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Reno, NV Posts: 1,406 Car: 2006 WRB WRX TR, 2008 LR STI Class: Too classy Dont sweat the petty... Pet the sweaty.	now i have another problem... Buy the defi clock gauge pod.. Or buy a HID kit, and just get a steering column mount, if I can find one cheap. __________________ "Like" me on facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/AP-Cre...2196449?v=wall _______________ 06 WRX w/ 6MT UNDER CONSTRUCTION 09 chicane yellow 370z

2009-08-12, 05:31 AM	#44
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	How much is the hid kit pure looking at? I accidentally stumbled onto one that is really easy to install, it's pretty cheap, and it works and looks great IMO Thanks Kevin. So I can spend the money on a protune, or gauges to tune myself? Last edited by bigrobwoot; 2009-08-12 at 05:36 AM.

2009-08-12, 08:18 AM	#45
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	My Omori gauges are super responsive and I like them a lot. They even have threshold lights you can set for any value. However, the EGT sending units have had short lifespans and now I'm told that they don't even make the sending unit for my 3 year old gauge anymore. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

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