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|  2004-08-24, 10:42 AM | #1 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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				 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through |  Check out this trick way to bleed your brakes 
			
			My old boss sent me this link, he uses it on his Viper to bleed the brakes. http://www.motiveproducts.com/02bleeders.html Basically it's a presurized tank of new brake fluid that is attached to the reservoir. As you crack open the bleeder screw, new fluid is forced into the system at the top, pushing old fluid out of the calipers. So no pumping, no helpers needed, no refilling the reservoir. Flush the brakes in about 10 minutes by yourself! The "Import Power Bleeder" is $65 and will work on all Subarus, and most other imports. Or for $100 you can get the larger 4qt model with every friggen attachment and be able to bleed anything. 
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|  2004-08-24, 11:29 AM | #2 | 
| Seņor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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				 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me. |   
			
			The problem is that you need the really expensive ones with a pressure bladder that sperates the air from the fluid, not just pressure in the chamber with the fluid... Air pressure in the chamber with the fluid just puts air in the fluid which is one of the key things we are trying to avoid... You could make one of these with a small gerden sprayer, and a spare brake fluid cap, but why... get some milkshakes, and have a party... 
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|  2004-08-24, 11:39 AM | #3 | 
| The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento 
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			Nate uses a Snap-On unit like the above, but it uses normal air hoses for pressure (hook it to a compressor) instead of the standalone pump.  Works really well.......
		 
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|  2004-08-24, 02:14 PM | #4 | |
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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				 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through |   Quote: 
     
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|  2004-08-24, 02:32 PM | #5 | 
| Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI 
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			We have one that looks almost identical to that (may be the same one, I can't remember off the top of my head) for use on the racecar.
		 
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|  2004-08-24, 03:21 PM | #6 | 
| Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno 
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				 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES! |   
			
			I have seen this whie looking for brake lines and was wondering if it is worth the money :?
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|  2004-08-24, 03:32 PM | #7 | ||
| Seņor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store 
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|  2004-08-25, 04:25 PM | #8 | 
| EJ18 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco 
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			I have a very similar setup that I would be more than willing to sell.  Bottom line, there is really no need, and they are WAY more trouble than they are worth.  See, the problem is getting a good seal on the top of the reservior.  The kit I have uses a spare tire (great idea, really) for pressure.  The problem is that the strap setup to get the top on is a huge pain in the ass.  Bottom line, last time I used it, I thought it was working, then POP, brake fluid everywhere. Now I just have a bottle with a fairly tight fitting hose that I just slip over the nipple. I do it myself without a helper monkey, and I have never had a problem with air in the lines. So long as the seal around the nipple is tight, there really is no way to introduce air into the system. The only advantage a pressureized system has, is that you don't have to pump your brakes or refill the reservior. Bleeding brakes is a lot easier than some seem to think it is. I know some people using speed-bleeders. They have a little ball bearing check valve, so that fluid/air can only go one way. I have also see these break inside calipers... Berndt | 
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|  2004-08-25, 08:51 PM | #9 | 
| EJ18 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA 
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			or you could make your own for much cheaper and use your engine as the vacuum source.  I have yet to actually make one (too lazy to buy a torch), but others have made it on the cheap and it works too    
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|  2004-08-26, 09:06 AM | #10 | 
| The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR 
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				 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through |   
			
			I have speed bleeders on my car.  They're nice because you can pump the fluid out w/o having to on/off the valve over and over manually.  However, to really get the system free of all air, you need to have a person to crack/close the bleeder while someone else presses the pedal. I was under the impression that the seal on the reservoir was pretty good... it looks like it clamps on, then has a chain and hooks to really lock it down. A better setup would be a reservior from a BMW or Porsche, or other European car, since they have threaded caps that the bleeder setup would just screw onto... but swapping out the reservior sounds like overkill. I'll agree w/ Berndt, bleeding the brakes really isn't that hard (I've done like 4 cars since last Thursday). I just thought having a setup like that pressurized tank would only make it easier for everyone in the club. 
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