No Turbo Miatas for Reno... - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Dean · 2004-03-08, 08:22 PM

I stopped by Reno Mazda, and they ain't getting a single one at all this model year! Mega crap!!!

I guess they will all end up in Florida, and SoCal. May have to wait until 2005 model year.

Nick Koan · 2004-03-08, 08:37 PM

BADBORA · 2004-03-08, 08:47 PM

tysonK · 2004-03-09, 06:52 PM

damn what a waste.

STIwish · 2004-03-09, 08:04 PM

Neh, could do your own.

Kevin M · 2004-03-10, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by STIwish

Neh, could do your own.

No you can't. The turbo gets all the turbo goodies, different bottom end, better wheels, tires, and suspension... and only costs $700 more.

STIwish · 2004-03-10, 06:44 AM

so take an NA, a modified Greddy turbo kit, a set of coil overs, some light 15s and the typical bracing and you can outperform it (by a long shot) at a MUCH lower price... hell, even a JRSC would make an NA outperform the MS NB.

STIwish · 2004-03-10, 06:45 AM

oh, btw, Miatas are something i do know

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-03-10, 07:50 AM

Where can you get:

Quote:

Originally Posted by STIwish

a modified Greddy turbo kit, a set of coil overs, some light 15s and the typical bracing

For less than $700?

Dean · 2004-03-10, 08:07 AM

I think what STIWish was saying is that you can build up a cool used Miata for not much money.

But I agree that if you want a new one, For Under $900 sticker difference from an LS, I'd take the Mazdaspeed version instead of going aftermarket considering a new aftermarket Turbo kits run from about 2K-5K and that doesn't get you the rest of the goodies on the Mazdaspeed version.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-03-10, 08:31 AM

Ahh, that would make more sense.

sperry · 2004-03-10, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

I think what STIWish was saying is that you can build up a cool used Miata for not much money.

What's the price of a '99 Miata + turbo kit and coilovers vs. a new MS Miata? I'm thinking that you can't do a current generation Miata for cheaper.

However, I believe a turbo'd or supercharged 1st or 2nd gen Miata would not only be way cheaper, it'd also be way faster.

Dean · 2004-03-10, 09:42 AM

John Evans' Miata is a great example of how much you can do to an older Miata...

I'd like the updated internals on the '04+ MS, and think of the chipping options with them only making 30 some odd HP stock. lets say that is a nice conservative 11PSI... Think of what 14 or 15 would do...

The updated safety, suspension, LSD, and ABS would be nice as well. Really hard to add all that to the older ones.

I did the research before Sue got hers. Basically, if I were going to get one today for the street, it would be an '01+ LS with the sport suspension(Includes strut-tower brace, Bilstein shocks, 16-inch alloy wheels, Torsen limited-slip differential, bigger brakes.), 6spd, and ABS.

All that plus a turbo in the MS would be so much nicer though...

STIwish · 2004-03-10, 01:25 PM

NA == first gen... NB == second gen ... the NB gained a decent amount of weight on the NA, and due to lack of truely affordable options for boosting IE; no $1100 Greddy kit, I'll take the NA both on the track and on the street, as I dont need nor want ABS or even airbags.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-03-10, 01:51 PM

I look at ABS as a tire-saver, it cuts down on your race tire bill due to flat spots... that's about all it's good for on my car, anyway.

Kevin M · 2004-03-10, 08:38 PM

I already have a race car. This Miata will be a daily driver (at least for a few years) so the newness, warranty, and greater reliability are more important than a few extra horsepower. Besides, I won't leave it TOTALLY stock.

STIwish · 2004-03-10, 09:26 PM

heh, i wont make the mistake of letting someone else besides me own my car... unless im TOTALLY secure financially and am totally single (well, this is a given)... but thats just me.

Dean · 2004-03-19, 11:02 AM

Aha... I know why Reno doesn't get any...

They are not a MazdaSpeed Dealership...

In fact, very few Mazda dealerships are allowed to carry MazdaSpeed vehicles...

Here are the ones remotely close to us. And everybody but Carson has at least 2 of them! Carso has zero.

CARSON CITY MAZDA
3550 SO. CARSON STREET
CARSON CITY, NEVADA
89701
Phone: 775-841-9696

MAZDA OF STOCKTON
3003 AUTO CENTER CIRCLE.
STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA
95212
Phone: 209-477-3374

GREEN VALLEY MAZDA
1201 OLIVER ROAD
FAIRFIELD, CALIFORNIA
94533
Phone: 707-421-3300

BILL LANG MAZDA
4301 SONOMA BLVD
VALLEJO, CALIFORNIA
94589
Phone: 707-552-5555

DIABLO MAZDA
2646 N. MAIN STREET
WALNUT CREEK, CALIFORNIA
94597
Phone: 925-937-6900

ArthurS · 2004-03-19, 11:17 AM

I've been to Diablo Mazda in Walnut Creek. Those guys were really nice!

Dean · 2004-03-19, 11:35 AM

Kevin... PMed you, but is your budy at one of these dealerships???

Hook me up!

sperry · 2004-03-19, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ArthurS

I've been to Diablo Mazda in Walnut Creek. Those guys were really nice!

Yeah, they also sell Subarus. If fact they sold Gary his USTCC WRX IIRC, at least there's a big picture of his car hanging on the wall in the service dept there.

They also had like 4 STi's when I was there... 2 white ones. :shock:

Kevin M · 2004-03-19, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

GREEN VALLEY MAZDA
1201 OLIVER ROAD
FAIRFIELD, CALIFORNIA
94533
Phone: 707-421-3300

This one.

I'll PM him real quick and see what the status is. You want red or gray, cloth or leather?

digidelia · 2004-03-19, 01:51 PM

our Mazda dealership here in Vegas sells Mazdaspeed Proteges. maybe they'll carry the Miata too?

Dean · 2004-03-19, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digidelia

our Mazda dealership here in Vegas sells Mazdaspeed Proteges. maybe they'll carry the Miata too?

That should be the case. According to the Mazda web site, Saharah has one, and henderson none, but they are both MazdaSpeed authorized.

Dean · 2004-03-19, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

GREEN VALLEY MAZDA
1201 OLIVER ROAD
FAIRFIELD, CALIFORNIA
94533
Phone: 707-421-3300

This one.

I'll PM him real quick and see what the status is. You want red or gray, cloth or leather?

They are both great colors. My druthers is probably gray/leather, though red/cloth is a good combo as well. Everything I really want is Std. equipment. Anything else is just fluff.

2004-03-08, 08:22 PM	#1
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2004-03-08, 08:37 PM	#2
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2004-03-09, 06:52 PM	#4
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2004-03-09, 08:04 PM	#5
STIwish EJ251 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 894	Neh, could do your own. __________________ STIwish

2004-03-10, 06:44 AM	#7
STIwish EJ251 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 894	so take an NA, a modified Greddy turbo kit, a set of coil overs, some light 15s and the typical bracing and you can outperform it (by a long shot) at a MUCH lower price... hell, even a JRSC would make an NA outperform the MS NB. __________________ STIwish

2004-03-10, 06:45 AM	#8
STIwish EJ251 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 894	oh, btw, Miatas are something i do know __________________ STIwish

2004-03-10, 08:07 AM	#10
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I think what STIWish was saying is that you can build up a cool used Miata for not much money. But I agree that if you want a new one, For Under $900 sticker difference from an LS, I'd take the Mazdaspeed version instead of going aftermarket considering a new aftermarket Turbo kits run from about 2K-5K and that doesn't get you the rest of the goodies on the Mazdaspeed version. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-03-10, 08:31 AM	#11
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Ahh, that would make more sense. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2004-03-10, 09:42 AM	#13
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	John Evans' Miata is a great example of how much you can do to an older Miata... I'd like the updated internals on the '04+ MS, and think of the chipping options with them only making 30 some odd HP stock. lets say that is a nice conservative 11PSI... Think of what 14 or 15 would do... The updated safety, suspension, LSD, and ABS would be nice as well. Really hard to add all that to the older ones. I did the research before Sue got hers. Basically, if I were going to get one today for the street, it would be an '01+ LS with the sport suspension(Includes strut-tower brace, Bilstein shocks, 16-inch alloy wheels, Torsen limited-slip differential, bigger brakes.), 6spd, and ABS. All that plus a turbo in the MS would be so much nicer though... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-03-10, 01:25 PM	#14
STIwish EJ251 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 894	NA == first gen... NB == second gen ... the NB gained a decent amount of weight on the NA, and due to lack of truely affordable options for boosting IE; no $1100 Greddy kit, I'll take the NA both on the track and on the street, as I dont need nor want ABS or even airbags. __________________ STIwish

2004-03-10, 01:51 PM	#15
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	I look at ABS as a tire-saver, it cuts down on your race tire bill due to flat spots... that's about all it's good for on my car, anyway. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2004-03-10, 08:38 PM	#16
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I already have a race car. This Miata will be a daily driver (at least for a few years) so the newness, warranty, and greater reliability are more important than a few extra horsepower. Besides, I won't leave it TOTALLY stock. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-03-10, 09:26 PM	#17
STIwish EJ251 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 894	heh, i wont make the mistake of letting someone else besides me own my car... unless im TOTALLY secure financially and am totally single (well, this is a given)... but thats just me. __________________ STIwish

2004-03-19, 11:02 AM	#18
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Aha... I know why Reno doesn't get any... They are not a MazdaSpeed Dealership... In fact, very few Mazda dealerships are allowed to carry MazdaSpeed vehicles... Here are the ones remotely close to us. And everybody but Carson has at least 2 of them! Carso has zero. CARSON CITY MAZDA 3550 SO. CARSON STREET CARSON CITY, NEVADA 89701 Phone: 775-841-9696 MAZDA OF STOCKTON 3003 AUTO CENTER CIRCLE. STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA 95212 Phone: 209-477-3374 GREEN VALLEY MAZDA 1201 OLIVER ROAD FAIRFIELD, CALIFORNIA 94533 Phone: 707-421-3300 BILL LANG MAZDA 4301 SONOMA BLVD VALLEJO, CALIFORNIA 94589 Phone: 707-552-5555 DIABLO MAZDA 2646 N. MAIN STREET WALNUT CREEK, CALIFORNIA 94597 Phone: 925-937-6900 __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-03-19, 11:17 AM	#19
ArthurS EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,707 Car: 2011 Chevy Battle Wagon	I've been to Diablo Mazda in Walnut Creek. Those guys were really nice! __________________ Captain Murphy: I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass. Be a hitter, babe.

2004-03-19, 11:35 AM	#20
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Kevin... PMed you, but is your budy at one of these dealerships??? Hook me up! __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-03-19, 01:51 PM	#23
digidelia n00b Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 21	our Mazda dealership here in Vegas sells Mazdaspeed Proteges. maybe they'll carry the Miata too? __________________ 2002 WRX Wagon Platinum Silver

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