May 22-23 @ Salt Lake: Audi Event

[Dean]

2 Day Driving School and Safety Seminar at Second Creek / Miller Motorsports Park Park near Salt Lake City, Utah...

The longest track in the west/US?

4.5 Miles, 24 turns...
$395 for two days including first night banquet...

More details and registration: http://www.audiclubrmc.org/Events/DrivingSchool/MMP/

Should be a blast.

[A1337STI]

How much tread should my tires have left before attending this event ? And how much tread loss will occur ? (any reasonable guess is fine) i'm on RE070s .
I'm guessing after 2 more autocrosses , they won't be suitable to attend a driving school on.

[Dean]

2 Track days use much less tire than a day of autocrossing.

[qksubi]

Originally Posted by A1337STI

How much tread should my tires have left before attending this event ? And how much tread loss will occur ? (any reasonable guess is fine) i'm on RE070s .
I'm guessing after 2 more autocrosses , they won't be suitable to attend a driving school on.

Well if roll your diff to the rear you will only use two tires

[A1337STI]

I recall spinning my car and sliding backwards across the finish line last time i did that, which i think wore my fronts a bit. Guess i could always give if a 2nd shot though

[A1337STI]

I got my confirmation letter. I'm In. Driver ability Mod here i come

[Dean]

Don't know if you have already booked your hotel, but I will probably stay elsewhere to save 30 bucks or so a night on a room. Expedia $42 rate looking good so far.

[A1337STI]

Ah Thanks. I have family out in salt lake city , and park city , So i'll be crashing with an uncle or cousin I'm very excited ! It will be my first time on a track /road course. (unless the autoX counts as a track)

[A1337STI]

got an email with a tech inspection form. one of the pass/fail items is suspension travel noise. i do have the famous strut clunk .. really hope that won't fail me as i highly dought subaru will fix it with in 3 days . (haven't even called up subaru about it yet)

[Dean]

Should not be an issue, as it is "normal" for inverted shocks...

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by A1337STI

got an email with a tech inspection form. one of the pass/fail items is suspension travel noise. i do have the famous strut clunk .. really hope that won't fail me as i highly dought subaru will fix it with in 3 days . (haven't even called up subaru about it yet)

Make sure to mention to the techs to torque your lugs to the correct spec. At every Audi event I have been to; they torque the lugs to around 90'# which can equal "oh snap" in a subaru.

[Kevin M]

Really? I always ran mine at 85 anyway.

[Dean]

Alex, get Cory to look at the car, and put a business card on it at the meet. Tech done...

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Really? I always ran mine at 85 anyway.

I still remember someone at our RFR track day who snapped a stud at 90'#.

My carrera spec is 91'# - the subaru is 67'#...go figure.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by doubleurx

I still remember someone at our RFR track day who snapped a stud at 90'#.

My carrera spec is 91'# - the subaru is 67'#...go figure.

Germans over-engineer everything. Not that I have a problem with that.

[A1337STI]

I can have Cory tech the car ? Sweet. I'm gonna owe him drinks or food twice now. So that nissan dealership sells audis too?

and that's a relief on the noise. its really really bad on the street i live on, kahle needed repairs like 4 years ago, and they installed a 'warning rough road' sign to fix the problem.

(and yes i'm overly excited )

[Dean]

Originally Posted by sperry

Germans over-engineer everything. Not that I have a problem with that.

Germans use lug bolts mostly, 12x1.5 instead of the Subaru 12x1.25 studs. The former are probably stronger, but a PITA.

Typical torqueing for 1.25 is about 65-80 ft*lbs, whereas 1.5s run 90-105ft*lbs.

[Kevin M]

Shit... now I'm undertorquing my Miata lugs. Well, when I use a torque wrench anyway. Most of the time I've just thrown the breaker bar on there and used German torque spec since the torque wrench is in Matt's trunk usually.

[Dean]

The Miata is speced at 62-85 I think even though it is a 12x1.5. I use 75 the same as the Subarus.

Maybe the difference in torque is bolt vs. nutand/or 4 vs. 5 lug...

[Kevin M]

Yeah, since my wheels are hubcentric, I'd rather slightly undertorque them than over torque. And if they haven't fallen off at RFR or Stead at 80 ft/lbs yet, I'm sure I'm okay there from now on.

[A1337STI]

I have a set of 12X1.5 locking Lug Nuts BTW (came with some rims i ordered for my old WRX) obviously they didn't fit. so i got some new lugs over nighted for free. (if that fits one of the miatas or something)

[Kevin M]

Yeah, the Miata is 12x1.5. Bring them to the next meet or autocross you go to, I'll check 'em out.

[A1337STI]

so the Audi driving event @ the track Rocked !!! Lots of fun! only now I feel like i'm addicted to track . loads of fun. i really liked turn 7 (double apex left ) . Turns 16-18 are a fun S / feels like a slalom. and of course 23 going onto the large straight away ! I definatly feel that i learned a lot while there.

oh On my way back from Utah yesterday i couldn't resist pulling off of 80 and onto the salt flats for a little drive around. I had never been out on the flats before. first i walked around becuase i kept thinking the flat would be more sandy and soft. but its very hard and has way higher traction then i thought. i was sliding my car around and quickly noticed i was leaving huge tire marks on the salt i think i lost more tread 5 minutes of salt drifting then i did 2 days of track driving.

now my car really really needs a wash .

[Dean]

I'm bringing video for tonight if we get our room...

It was a blast. First class facility in the works. ALMS is there soon, and if there was ever a place to hold a F1 race in the US, this may well be it.

And you thought the front straight at RFR was fast... I almost needed 6th in my stock STI, and I wasn't even really trying...

Fortunately it ends in a nice sweeping left hander with tons of runoff.

[A1337STI]

Maybe i was shifting too early ? I had set my shift light/beep to 6K so i wouldn't have to look at my tac. I had a few laps where i heard the beep far enough before the braking zone , so i was shifting into 6th and going WOT for some moments (hard to tell exactly how long)

how far up (RPM Wise) were you taking 5th ? Course i also had one lap where i went to about the rev limiter in 5th. (the first lap that i stayed on the gas after hearing beeps in 5th, i was coasting the last 1/10 of the straight away most of monday) As i just didn't think i could stay on the throttle as long as i was able to .