Noise in 3rd gear after clutch install. - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-10-29, 02:15 PM

Just installed the exedy stage 1 organic and lightweight flywheel. Everything seems totally normal except, when I am in 3rd gear and I let off the gas pedal. I hear a noise similar to the sound of skateboard wheels on asphalt. Its not a constant sound but its always the same each time it happens and it only happens in 3rd when I take my foot off the gas. It is most noticeable from 3500rpm and down. Any ideas? I have had shockproof lightweight trans fluid in there for about 6k miles and its on the full mark. Again, this sound was not present before this new clutch.

sperry · 2007-10-29, 02:59 PM

Did you replace the throw-out bearing during the install?

cody · 2007-10-29, 03:25 PM

It has been dubbed "Subaru Deceleration Noise" since at least 1998. It is nothing new.

Adding a stiff transmission mount will cause you to be able to hear it on a totally stock car. Even without that, many stock cars do it. If you take it to Subaru for warranty, they give you an even heavier flywheel. Going to a light flywheel makes it very, very noticeable. It is not a bad thing. It's not hurting anything. Your flywheel didn't cause it, it only caused you to be able to hear it. Your car has always done it and always will.

Running a higher front/rear tire pressure differential will make the noise get quieter or even go mostly away. You might try a stagger of 5 psi... as in fronts at 36 psi, rears at 31 psi.

MPREZIV · 2007-10-29, 03:50 PM

What Cody said. Mine's noisy as HELL!

sperry · 2007-10-29, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

What Cody said. Mine's noisy as HELL!

I had my clutch replaced under warranty back in '01 for that issue... I was under the impression that newer cars don't have that issue. Then again aftermarket clutches are plain noisy, but I would expect to hear that in every gear, not just 3rd.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-10-29, 06:09 PM

The sound does happen at random times in the other gears when i do hear it. I guess since I have the cusco engine/tranny mounts and now this lightweight gruppe flywheel its just another sound that I need to get use to. Or just listen to more music. Thanks for the info.

scott- The throw-out bearing was replaced as well.

MPREZIV · 2007-10-29, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

I had my clutch replaced under warranty back in '01 for that issue... I was under the impression that newer cars don't have that issue. Then again aftermarket clutches are plain noisy, but I would expect to hear that in every gear, not just 3rd.

I dunno why, but in the RS community, there just seems to be something about 3rd that makes it most noticable. I simply *assumed* that other subi trannies with the same noise, would likely make it in the same gear. Mine is audible in 4th, but most prominent in 3rd. Possibly just the right amount of coast side force on the gear, or the setup of the shafts in the trans. case simply sending more of the sound through the case in 3rd... Never heard anything about newer cars not doing it with a LW flywheel.

I do know that I NEVER heard it before swapping the flywheel out for the Exedy 12.xx lbs unit. As soon as I heard it, I went frantically searching on rs25.com looking so see if I was the only one, or if I managed to f* up my transmission doing the install!

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-10-29, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

I do know that I NEVER heard it before swapping the flywheel out for the Exedy 12.xx lbs unit. As soon as I heard it, I went frantically searching on rs25.com looking so see if I was the only one, or if I managed to f* up my transmission doing the install!

That is a quote from my brain.

tysonK · 2007-10-30, 02:57 PM

not to hijack or anything but have you guys heard my EVO deceleration noise omg.

diff.transfercase.clutch so loud.

MPREZIV · 2007-10-30, 06:36 PM

I can only imagine... I'm sure it's up there with "cement mixer"...

M3n2c3 · 2007-10-31, 10:04 PM

I get a bit of noise. Since all of the bits in question are still stock on my car, it's not really noticeable unless you listen for it, and the exhaust mostly covers it up now.

newyorkreload · 2007-11-01, 01:00 AM

I had that issue a couple years time back, i was told it was normal and went to playing my music a notch louder to cover it up if need be.

dayofpain · 2007-11-01, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Just installed the exedy stage 1 organic and lightweight flywheel. Everything seems totally normal except, when I am in 3rd gear and I let off the gas pedal. I hear a noise similar to the sound of skateboard wheels on asphalt. Its not a constant sound but its always the same each time it happens and it only happens in 3rd when I take my foot off the gas. It is most noticeable from 3500rpm and down. Any ideas? I have had shockproof lightweight trans fluid in there for about 6k miles and its on the full mark. Again, this sound was not present before this new clutch.

YO, did you do that ish yourself?

dayofpain · 2007-11-01, 02:20 PM

i gots no noise. just a phat axle leak that i dont want to fix.

ever

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-01, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dayofpain

YO, did you do that ish yourself?

I did it with a few members at Robbers house. We fumbled around for a few hours, then Cory came and poked fun at us, did some magic, rambled on about some oldass booberry cereal, and then exposed us all to second hand smoke. All in all it was a good day until I got in to drive away only to discover that the release fork was not where it was suppose to be and the clutch stuck to the floor. Still with all the complications it only took 12hrs which to me, is pretty decent. I know that next time will be like half that because there will be no ass scratching.

dayofpain · 2007-11-01, 03:05 PM

hmmm, interesting.

i been thinking about doing clutch and flywheel but have been scared to do the install myself.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-01, 03:07 PM

Oh its terrifying, but its not to bad now that I look back. But I would never try to do it without a lift. That would suck balls on jack stands.

MPREZIV · 2007-11-01, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

...then Cory came and poked fun at us, did some magic, rambled on about some oldass booberry cereal, and then exposed us all to second hand smoke...

Boo Berry OWNS you!

AtomicLabMonkey · 2007-11-01, 04:39 PM

With a free Battlestar Galactica adventure card?!? Best cereal ever!

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-01, 04:52 PM

thats probably full of MSG and colored blue with lead based paint.

Kevin M · 2007-11-01, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

thats probably full of MSG and colored blue with lead based paint.

Which is the same as being full of win and awesome.

wrxkidid · 2007-11-01, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Oh its terrifying, but its not to bad now that I look back. But I would never try to do it without a lift. That would suck balls on jack stands.

Yea screw that. Even with a lift it sucked. Now we know how though so we could probably do it a lot faster

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-11-01, 09:44 PM

^haha yeah totally. You have to admit, most of the time we were just walking around watching each other bash our heads on the lift.

wrxkidid · 2007-11-05, 09:13 PM

I hit my damn head so many times that day. I was getting so mad.

2007-10-29, 02:15 PM	#1
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Noise in 3rd gear after clutch install. Just installed the exedy stage 1 organic and lightweight flywheel. Everything seems totally normal except, when I am in 3rd gear and I let off the gas pedal. I hear a noise similar to the sound of skateboard wheels on asphalt. Its not a constant sound but its always the same each time it happens and it only happens in 3rd when I take my foot off the gas. It is most noticeable from 3500rpm and down. Any ideas? I have had shockproof lightweight trans fluid in there for about 6k miles and its on the full mark. Again, this sound was not present before this new clutch. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-10-29, 02:59 PM	#2
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Did you replace the throw-out bearing during the install? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-10-29, 03:25 PM	#3
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	It has been dubbed "Subaru Deceleration Noise" since at least 1998. It is nothing new. Adding a stiff transmission mount will cause you to be able to hear it on a totally stock car. Even without that, many stock cars do it. If you take it to Subaru for warranty, they give you an even heavier flywheel. Going to a light flywheel makes it very, very noticeable. It is not a bad thing. It's not hurting anything. Your flywheel didn't cause it, it only caused you to be able to hear it. Your car has always done it and always will. Running a higher front/rear tire pressure differential will make the noise get quieter or even go mostly away. You might try a stagger of 5 psi... as in fronts at 36 psi, rears at 31 psi. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2007-10-29, 03:50 PM	#4
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	What Cody said. Mine's noisy as HELL! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-10-29, 06:09 PM	#6
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	The sound does happen at random times in the other gears when i do hear it. I guess since I have the cusco engine/tranny mounts and now this lightweight gruppe flywheel its just another sound that I need to get use to. Or just listen to more music. Thanks for the info. scott- The throw-out bearing was replaced as well. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-10-30, 02:57 PM	#9
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	not to hijack or anything but have you guys heard my EVO deceleration noise omg. diff.transfercase.clutch so loud. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2007-10-30, 06:36 PM	#10
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	I can only imagine... I'm sure it's up there with "cement mixer"... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-10-31, 10:04 PM	#11
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 1,888 Car: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP sometimes (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	I get a bit of noise. Since all of the bits in question are still stock on my car, it's not really noticeable unless you listen for it, and the exhaust mostly covers it up now. __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2007-11-01, 01:00 AM	#12
newyorkreload EJ18 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cow Town: The City of Trees Posts: 33 Car: 02, Subaru Impreza WRX "I have lived so many lives, all in my head"	I had that issue a couple years time back, i was told it was normal and went to playing my music a notch louder to cover it up if need be.

2007-11-01, 02:20 PM	#14
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	i gots no noise. just a phat axle leak that i dont want to fix. ever __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-01, 03:05 PM	#16
dayofpain R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: reno, nv Posts: 599 Car: 09 335xi silva	hmmm, interesting. i been thinking about doing clutch and flywheel but have been scared to do the install myself. __________________ DayOfPain "In order for me to get busy at maximum efficiency, i need a girl with a big 400 ton booty."

2007-11-01, 03:07 PM	#17
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Oh its terrifying, but its not to bad now that I look back. But I would never try to do it without a lift. That would suck balls on jack stands. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-11-01, 04:39 PM	#19
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	With a free Battlestar Galactica adventure card?!? Best cereal ever! __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2007-11-01, 04:52 PM	#20
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	thats probably full of MSG and colored blue with lead based paint. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-11-01, 09:44 PM	#23
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	^haha yeah totally. You have to admit, most of the time we were just walking around watching each other bash our heads on the lift. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-11-05, 09:13 PM	#24
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	I hit my damn head so many times that day. I was getting so mad. __________________ Mosey down the road.

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